TSM v C9

Prizzles·5/30/2015, 8:15:54 PM·3 votes·2,153 views

C9 gets a brand new mid in Incarnati0n and beats the "best" team in NA in TSM. I am a massive TSM fan, have been since season 2, but the game has shifted and it just isn't good enough to play tanky initiators and not make plays in the top lane. Balls Rumble is a perfect representation of that. I can't remember the last time that Dyrus carried a game. I think I remember it happening one game last season as Sion.

He either needs to step his game up and start making plays again or it is time for him to move on. The fact that Bjergsen had almost a 100 cs lead in the mid lane and they wren't able to win that game is on Dyrus and WildTurtle.

24 Comments

Lańce5/30/2015, 8:19:06 PM4 votes

Not really lck plays maokai still. What really needed is decisive shoutcalling, bjerg isnt cutting it. Make lustboy do it.

Darth Pixy Misa5/30/2015, 8:19:49 PM4 votes

The urgot pick was lame. Why pick urgot? Bjerg had the only damage on the team...... Why did't TSM ban Rumble?

arc955/31/2015, 2:10:37 PM2 votes

more than anything why not ban Rumble... Balls was 16-0 with him(now 17-0)

KilljoyX5/31/2015, 2:33:13 PM2 votes

<PIcks 1 threat comp>

All Dyrus' fault.

Dyrus did well that game actually the problem is balls literally cannot lose a professional game on rumble. He's never lost on it. IN MORE THAN 10 GAMES. The rumble ults literally won an unwinnable game. Rumble ults ate Vic's flash like 5 times and burned everything to make Vic have to run instead. Vic isn't a safe late game champ unlike kog (Which is one of the safest 40 minute mid laners.

Magic Mo5/30/2015, 8:36:38 PM2 votes

Maokai isn't a hard initiator. His primary role in teamfights in peeling, so when you have him as your primary initiator and the game goes on that long, as shown, you're gonna lose.

I would've preferred to see a Sion or Mundo, both of whom can bypass Rumble ult fairly easily and keep the enemy backline busy.

arcinex5/30/2015, 8:37:03 PM2 votes

The meta is shifting. If people continue to play tanks you're gonna end up seeing the ultimate team-fighting, tank assassin adc: Twitch and assassins/fighters/bruisers in general.

To a degree yes it was the Kog'Maw being able to scale into level 16 with ludens but it could have been all avoided if Santorin knew how to gank. Bjergsen played it well, i'm not sure who the shot caller is but they sure as hell need a better one.

Legendairee5/30/2015, 8:18:01 PM1 votes

No its on kog maw being able to poke from a full screen away. TSM did split up way too much in team fights, but kog'maw is a ludicrous design

Yandere Carry6/3/2015, 8:38:03 AM1 votes

the fact that bjer had a 100 cs lead and DIDNT carry is his fault. When you are set up to carry (like how TSM plays) its up to you to carry.

xJLx MCHammer5/30/2015, 8:28:10 PM1 votes

It's more about kog than anything else. Balls isn't that great, in fact last split, he did really bad. To plane represents the jungle and team coordination.

DestructoDave5/30/2015, 8:35:11 PM1 votes

when a champion who loses by 70cs or whatever in the laning phase get 1 damage item and starts winning the game, you realize there is a problem. AP Kog, is pretty rediculous by design. Its pretty crazy he can finish a Ludens that far behind, and start winning the game.

That said, I'm glad C9 won. Also, just seeing Incarnation on stream, he looked overrated anyways. He was always losing lane or losing games. I know I watched one stream where Slooshi solo killed him 2 times in lane. I thought NA had weak mids?

SteelDefender5/30/2015, 9:15:55 PM1 votes

Guys this happens every season. TSM may not be doing the best at the start of the season but they sure show their power toward the end. And if you guys are true TSM fans then you would believe in them not hate.

endtime005/31/2015, 2:06:02 PM1 votes

Nah, it was all Dyrus.

Vixanys6/1/2015, 1:38:40 PM1 votes

Honestly, TSM was winning. Then they over-confidently went into a tight gap versus a Rumble and paid for it. That lead to multiple objectives going down.

I think it is fair to say that TSM threw the game. At that point. Their comp required they have more levels and more items on all of their members to win. That one loss team fight. Negated all advantages (Incarnati0n was 4.1.6 while being 80 CS down at this point but still had the same number of items as Bjerg).