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Santorin and TSM adapt for Summer

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It may be the beginning of a new split, but Team SoloMid's jungler Lucas "Santorin" Larsen doesn't have any time to dwell on mistakes. Instead, he and his team are quickly learning from them and adapting. "We were so far ahead [against Cloud9] and we shouldn't have been able to throw that game," Santorin says, almost laughing in disbelief. "We lost because we were running into chokes against Rumble. That was stuff we, in-game, were talking a lot about. We were saying we shouldn't run into chokes, but we ran into two or three. That's something we really have to improve on and make sure it doesn't happen again."

New Enemies?

He says that while upsetting, TSM immediately knew the mistakes they'd made. Once the team got home, they didn't waste any time before watching the VOD to prep and make sure they didn't repeat the same things on Day 2 against one of the NA LCS' newest teams, Enemy Esports (NME). Yet, even though they're the rookies of the Summer Split, NME still gave TSM a run for their money in the first half of the match. "These guys, new to the scene, new to the stage, they put up a really good fight, so I feel like they definitely played better than I expected." As for his own team? "We died a lot for no reason and we didn't rotate the way we should have, so the game dragged out a lot," Santorin explains. "But we knew that the second we hit late game team fights we were going to win." TSM had put together a team fight composition that would have been a nightmare for NME to attack into late game. But it was during the earlier parts of the game that the newcomers gave TSM trouble. Santorin mentions how Cuong "Flaresz" Ta's Hecarim was able to run rampant in the early game. It started when the horse killed Søren "Bjergsen" Bjerg in mid, stealing a crucial Blue Buff. "All we had to do was call that Hecarim was missing! So that started snowballing. Then Hecarim got fed, because he got Blue Buff. Suddenly he was 4-0 and killing everyone, and that was the only thing we couldn't let happen." Despite Enemy hitting a scary mid-game power spike on Hecarim, TSM kept their heads in the game. They locked down four Dragons before shutting Enemy down at Baron. Together with Bjergsen constantly threatening NME's back line on Viktor, TSM finished things up and walked away with their first win of the Summer Split. "I feel like a team is not a good team unless you can play from behind, so we're really trying to make sure that we can," Santorin says.

Here I Come!

TSM's also working on a few other aspects of their game lately, like focusing more on top lane and their communication issues. "We have definitely gotten a lot better at communicating, mainly because we're playing more to top side now too. So Dyrus is calling more stuff, because he's getting used to me. If he calls me, I'm going to come, and that's how we're trying to get better at the game, by using our top lane too." He continues, "Because we're playing to top lane now, it's way easier for me to gank. Normally I'd always be bot side or mid side, which means it was really easy to predict when I was going to gank. So I feel like it's getting better."

Playtime's Over

For the next few weeks, Santorin also says TSM's going to focus practice more around lane swaps, a tactic they've recently strayed away from. "I feel like we were really good at lane swaps at some point, but because we never practiced it again we forgot how to do it. That's one of the reasons we didn't win against Cloud9. Lane swaps are a really huge thing. If we can't play lane swaps, then every team is going to lane swap on us and we're going to play behind at the start." And while things are going better in terms of communication, Santorin still feels the team has a ways to go. "Just looking at this game [against Enemy], Hecarim got a mid lane kill for free which never should have happened, so that's my standpoint. That should never happen. If that still happens, then we still have something to work on." Team SoloMid may have stumbled a bit out of the gate this Summer, but it's clear they have a great handle on what they need to work on going forward. This isn't a team that's happy when they win, but rather one that's filled with hungry competitors who are fiending to learn from the games they've played. We'll see how far it carries TSM to their ultimate goal of winning the 2015 World Championship. Leah Jackson is a web content editor at Lolesports. Her favorite champion is Gnar! Feel free to follow her on Twitter for esports banter and corgi pictures.

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34 Comments

Linthe8 votes

""All we had to do was call that Hecarim was missing!"

Translation: WTF. Dyrus, stop giving up first blood and call your GD MIAs or GTFO.

LastFunCheung9 votes

why Dyrus still in TSM?

Morrogondor7 votes

Cuz the whole team never helped top during MSI? Well personally I dont like Dyrus too but its not fair to blame everything on him, TSM is just bad in the world.

potatoandcup15 votes

^ Dyrus made a lot of mistakes during MSI but yeah, he's used to his team leaving him out to dry. even if he's a team player you know he gets frustrated when the enemy knows to camp you cause nobody is going to come no matter what.

I like dyrus he's the OG of TSM. the only one left and if he leaves it's just yellowstar as a vet

Einherji2 votes

no, Watch is still around.

Holy fúk ADC suc2 votes

That has nothing to with the summersplit match with the hecarim gone missing. All he had to do was SS. Kappa

Lickittongue4 votes

Yeah he should be replaced! During Spring season, he gave 35% of First-Blood (FB) in all TSM's which is a crazy fact MonteCristo mentioned in Thoorin's stream. 80% FB in MSI too. He even get solo killed constantly as well - the most recent example: during TSM's game vs NME. Rookie Flarez solo killed him twice and build a huge lead by himself.

V1perkiller4 votes

Hecarim had 2 or 3 kills and 2 levels on Dyrus before solo killing him, Immobile Rumble has no chance. Though can't agree more on TSM replacing him with more capable top laner.

Cheryl Cole3 votes

If you die vs newbie player, there is no excuse. No level advantage, no item or gold advantage. It is pure knowledge and mechanical skill. Flaresz is no Marin or Koro. He is not important TSM factor. He is pure weakness ready to be exploit. TSM should be NA contender for Worlds. Let's look at these guys. Santorin is no more then mediocre, wiildturtle is not a sunshine anymore. Bjergsen is outclassed by other mid laners (in this meta at least), and only world class player is support. So you cant have this guy in your team, if you want to have any chance. AND BTW ... you are downvoting guy, who just wrote some stats and no opinion at all? Guys pls... you are seriously fucked up.

L3v1athan4 votes

mom it wasn't me you are clearly disillusioned, Santorin is almost certainly the 2nd best jungler in NA, he has a few off games but is usually on point. Bjergsen is the best western mid laner, incredible even in losing lane match ups and always well positioned in team fights. Wildturtle is a dynamic adc who will more often win a fight for tsm than lose them one and this is only improved when he is alongside a support as good as Lustboy. whilst Dyrus may not be the best top laner he almost always keeps up in cs even when camped and generally earns tsm objective advantages due to peoples insistent camping of him, his team fights prowess on more supportive champions is also brilliant which is key when tsm already have two carries.

you cannot blame dyrus alone for his solo deaths vs Flaresz as the game had gone down a path such that either needed Santorin to camp dyrus, dyrus to completely avoid his lane, or dyrus to risk dieing. besides, even the best top laners get solo killed every now and then due to plain and simple miscalculations and mistakes, they are only human, these miscalculations become more frequent when one player (Flaresz) has his item build accelerated beyond the normal point for that time in the game (not due to dyrus I might add).

Cheryl Cole4 votes

NewXpeRieNce no dude... you just missed the point. I wasnt talking about TSM worst NA team.... Ofc their roaster is the best NA can offer. But i was talking about their succes on next Worlds. Compare them to best of eastern teams and you can clearly see, that their only chance is all teams dying to cancer. And no... Dyrus is not world class player. He is poor even for NA LCS standards. And if you are talking about santorin... last like 10 TSM games this guy had absolutely no presence at all. And wildturtle is only guy filling the role. If TSM plays well, Wildturtle is doing his job well or even carry. If TSM struggle, Wildturtle is completely invisible. And bjergsen in world competition is not dominant. Ofc if you dont count his performance vs second class chinese clubs. And one important fact. Bjergsen has not shown versus any great foreign team so far. Ofc he dominates NA, but he never ever dominated another strong mid from other region (and again pls dont count WE or flesh wolfs. Dont even know the name of their mids). So if you exclude his 1 v 1 ability which is not important at all in current meta. You get mediocre player in international competition.

SL NoMercy3 votes

cause he gets the other team to attack him and focus him, and he dies a lot then, but his team gets kills from it. So Dyrus is a extremely important factor in TSM

hi im gilin6 votes

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cause he gets the other team to attack him and focus him, and he dies a lot then, but his team gets kills from it. So Dyrus is a extremely important factor in TSM

How is that an important factor when they're getting free kills on him? Bjerg can't even carry a feeding top lamer against any team besides na.

Acęman4 votes

There's a limit to how many foreign players a team can have, they can only import two players.

Wildturtle - Canada Bjerg - Foreign import Lustboy - Foreign import Santorin - Euro but got into the LCS with Team Coast so he was allowed to join another team and be excluded from the rule

There's no decent top laners in NA that have become available recently. Once we see a decent top laner looking for a team you can expect Dyrus to be gone.

Eleshakai1 votes

Canada isn'ty considered an import, and I think that at this point both Bjergsen and Santorin are considered NA players according to the rules.

They got rid of the 'exempt non-resident' category and forced those players to pick which region they wanted to be considered a part of.

Not sure about Lustboy though.

ApeironLight7 votes

Dyrus is fine. Unlike Bjergsen, his specialty isn't 1v1. Its teamfighting. If the rest of his team followed him in after that dragon vs C9, TSM wins the game right there. (Not a TSM fan, btw.)

Zionspartan, Quas, and Impact are the top 3 Top Laners in NA right now. Just because Balls and Dyrus aren't playing as well as they did in 2012-2014, doesn't mean they are weak. Meteos just isn't camping Balls and more, and Dyrus never gets ganks with Santorin. Dyrus especially. If Santorin had had ANY pressure near Dyrus at MSI, those dives woudln't have been possible. If Santorin had realized Dyrus was getting camped/dove and chose to use that as an advantage on the other side of the map, it wouldn't have mattered.

Dyrus was always strong in Lane Swapping, and I don't understand why they didn't swap at all at MSI. He gets forced onto picks that are the "strong picks" and they never organize a comp around one of his pocket picks. Dude can play other champs besides Mao/Lulu/Rumble. Yet I never get to see him play Irelia in LCS any more.

If TSM throws him on a carry-able champ and throws a gank or two his way we would probably see a different Dyrus. Go back and watch TSM when TheOddOne was jungling. That guy had amazing game sense and was almost ALWAYS in the right place at the right time. Sometimes his ganks wouldn't work, but if Dyrus or Regi was getting ganked, OddOne was there to counter. All of TSMs lanes can in the least go even against anyone in NA, Santorin needs mix things up so enemy junglers can't abuse Top Side so much. Even in the Spring Split, I think Lustboy ended up roaming top more than Santorin did.... which is a big problem.

TL;DR - I'd say I'm a CLG fan, but even I don't understand all the Dyrus hate when its clearly not entirely his fault. Hard to win top lane when your team only plays on 1/2 of the map.

ScareyCarey2 votes

You know Canada is in North America right. As in, "NA"? Loool the nationalism among these fans.

TrollFan017 votes

TSM has a hiccup against C9 but they're fine. They'll take 1st place again.

Tokai3 votes

What he said about lane swaps makes a lot of sense. C9 is one of the best lane swapping teams in the LCS, and a key to beat them is to keep up with their lane swaps so that they can't provide an advantage from it.

IPleadInsanity1 votes

especiallyy when hai was on their team, they lane swapped so well that they farmed easier almost all te time. Tsm is jus good at farming especially bjerg

hi im gilin3 votes

There is NO way they can win worlds if they keep Dyrus. He's too much of a hassle for the team. There are plenty of other teams that have a solid 5 man roster.

Jarvin84 votes

There's not really anyone else you can get though...

KazaLyn Shao4 votes

**Win **worlds? There's no way they can even compete at worlds.

SinatraZ3 votes

I never understood the hype around TSM. Also, I dislike Santorin very much.

I prefer teams like CLG, C9 and Team Liquid.

TTV DaniDawnstar3 votes

TSM TSM TSM!

FioraTheExplora2 votes

So they're finally DIErus..

Lickittongue2 votes

During the Spring Season, Dyrus has given 35% of first bloods in all TSM matches.. Crazy!!

JHei2 votes

C9>tsm confirmed

Cooler then COLD2 votes

TSM

PoisonedTea1 votes

TSM Liquid and even C9 are looking in one direction up.

Can an others compare.

Alquin1 votes

Wtf? This is written by the same writer as the one who wrote the Aphromoo article, this article is fine, really informative and interesting, yet you gave no fucks whatsoever for the Aphro article and wrote something equivalent to a childrens picture book.

BaDoinKAdOinK1 votes

A list of Danish players: Froggen Bjergsen Santorin Incarnat0n Wickd

there are many more of course Denmark has like 4 million inhabitants; still better players than 300 Million USA :D

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