Worlds 2017: Group Stage Week 1 stats breakdown

I think RNG is top three as well, hence why they are the top A Tier team, but I believe that SKT and LZ are still stronger than RNG. Your entitled to disagree, and that's fine, hence why it's an opinion.

I agree the so called group of death and RNG is handing it to every team in their group. SKT looked shaky at times. While LZ played easier teams based on groups. RNG looks unstoppable right now. They are the best team currently

I don't know, TSM is in a group with no Korean teams yet are still only 2-1. When you take into consideration that they are the only NA team to lose to a non-Korean team, are they really still on par with each other?

TSM... To be honest they shouldn't have lost any game. And they are killing themselves in the early game for no reason. But I wouldn't mind if they win all three games this week.

I really don't know why Flashwolves are performing so bad. I put them a close second in there group. But it looks like I was wrong to do so. TSM should be first in this group. But even still; they seem to be under performing to me. Especially in the early game.

Though; my pickems need Flashwolves to win all three games, and a tiebreaker. And TSM to win the other 2. My pickems are probable doomed for this group. The rest of my pickem groups are fine though.

Thank you, it's always nice to know that someone agrees with me.

Pick and Ban is a big part of success though. If GAM is a team who sucks at Pick and Ban, then that's a huge weakness that NEEDS to reduce their ranking as a team.

I think you're overranking GAM, they're a relatively competitive team, definitely on par with most of the core regions, but I don't think they're better than Immortals. Partially due to their reliance on a single strat(they tend to rely on 'strange' picks to disorient the early game so they can survive to late game and win late)... this means that if their strange picks DON'T disorient, they have a tendency to not do too well. Don't get me wrong, the ability to play niche picks and mix things up is a huge strength, but if you can't play 'standard' then you're missing a key element to me considering you a strong team... and GAM hasn't proven that they can quite yet. The other thing that hurts them is exactly what you mentioned, their pick/ban seems really weak. I mean, you just DON'T let Xayah/Rakan through to a pro team right now. The combo is just too insanely strong.

Agree with you on the over ranking of IMT. They aren’t performing that much better than TSM and should be 1-2. C9 is clearly playing their style and it’s working. They look the best of the three NA teams so far. TSM group is the group of life because every team that wants to make it out wants to be in this group and it’s possible for every team in this group to win against everyone else. But overall it looks possible that all three NA teams make it out. The one team that might not is TSM. C9 got AHQ which people said was worst LMS team, and thankfully EDG at worlds is a thing. While IMT group looked tough at the start the dumpster fire that is FNC happened. Add in a GAM this is a pretty easy group.

Mhm, very true. TSM is honestly, in my opinion, the weakest NA team this year and even they look like a potential contender for the Finals if some of their play cleans up. Korea's SSG looks pretty weak compared to last year, but to be honest they still look pretty strong when you look at teams like Fnatic and G2. Honestly I think that this year is the best year NA is going to have at worlds, unless week 2 comes back and bites us like it does every year. Statistically speaking, though, NA and Korea are top 2 with China trailing close behind NA, every other region is either weak because of meta or just not showing up this year (I'm looking at you EU). There is still a lot more games to be played before we can determine the absolute best region/team, and until the end we can only guess who is good and who is bad, but for now I predict that NA will send at least one team to the finals (especially if any of the three NA teams starts to clean up their play)

I agree that Week 2 will determine the true winners and losers, but, as goes putting focus on record over context, I thought I made a pretty clear distinction on who is good only because of their record and who looks genuinely strong. For instance I could've said that C9 are making it out of groups just because they're 2-1, but instead I elaborated and said that they're making it out because they took down an EDG that looked to be making a comeback in their game against SKT, which they nearly won. That should provide enough context without having to go into extreme detail on why C9 is placed above, for example, TSM. I agree that week 2 is a whole different beast, especially with NA's track record of week 2 failures, but given the context of how NA is winning (through meta picks and comps) I think that NA is almost guaranteed to get at least two teams out of groups, maybe even three. Now I could go on and on about the rest of my picks and why I assorted teams the way I did, but I think I've given enough insight on the issue to convey my message. I respect your opinion, but I also highly disagree with your comment about me leaving out context and only focusing on the amount of games a team has won or lost.

And some Fnatic members say there are issues with the team behind stage, which can really affect their mentality in the next week. And also Soaz was basically flaming his team on twitter saying like oh, the enemy team could probably win if they pick teemo or said, I wish I can farm 20 minutes without worrying about my team, how sad. I agree.

To be honest I only rated Fanatic 3rd on my pickems. And was debating putting them fourth. And Now I wish I had lol.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't think it's all team issues. Reckless is still being the carry. It's just not enough to have one great player on the world stage. You need a whole team. And at worlds it just shows how far behind the rest of the team is compared to there ADC.

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I never think TSM will go 6-0. They aren't that good lmao

You got the point though.