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Picks & Bans: ahq's carries look to take MSI

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How do you solve a problem like Shu-Wei "Westdoor" Liu? And once you've done that, how do you figure out what to do with Chun An "AN" Chou? Ahq e-Sports victories have long been The Westdoor Show, but with AD carry AN stepping up in the LMS Playoffs, it's becoming increasingly hard to figure out exactly how to deal with the Picks and Bans of ahq. To make matters more interesting, there's been some shakeups to the roster. Their season-long jungler Chia-Wei "Albis" Kang has migrated down to the support position, while former Taipei Snipers jungler Zhao-Hong "Mountain" Xue has joined the squad. As they head to the Mid-Season Invitational, the teams facing off against ahq are going to have to figure out how to deal with them.

Close the Westdoor?

Here's a fun fact: during the 21 games in the LMS Spring Split regular season, Westdoor was targeted by double or triple bans 15 times. The mid laner is feared by the entirety of the Taiwanese scene, and for good reason -- he's likely the best player in Taiwan, and is more than capable of hard carrying matches. Basically, if you give Westdoor Zed, Twisted Fate, or his beloved Fizz, expect a hard time. He rarely loses lane, allowing him to wander and get his side lanes rolling as well. Whether it's the assassination potential of Fizz and Zed or the global pressure of Twisted Fate, he always finds a way to make his presence known. In previous seasons, the answer to the Westdoor puzzle was easy: just ban out his three key champions. This season, however, he's expanded his admittedly tiny pool. In the playoffs, he pulled out Cho'Gath and Karthus, playing both to great effect. His ability to snowball his own lane while simultaneously applying pressure all over the map is key in many of ahq's wins. Notice how four of the five champions he played during the Playoffs have either global ultimates or extreme mobility. He may have world-class mechanics on assassins, but his roams are what wins ahq games. So, what the hell do teams do against Westdoor? You could ban out his three best champions and hope for the best, but that didn't work out for Hong Kong Esports, Taipei Assassins, or yoe Flash Wolves. The alternative is to ban out whichever of his champions seems the most fearsome, nabbing a counterpick, and focusing more heavily on taking out other lanes.

The other carry

The most obvious secondary banning choice would be to go after AD carry An. After a solid regular season, he became a massive threat for the ahq side during the Playoffs. He's put up double digit kill performances on Jinx, Sivir, and Urgot, and damn near got there with Kalista. When Westdoor can't quite win the game on his own, An can more than pick up the slack. Much like Westdoor, his champion pool is a bit too deep to completely wipe out with a triple ban, but his Urgot looks to be the best target for bans on the international stage. Due to his prevalence as a mid lane champion in many regions, there's a strong chance that duo lanes won't have a ton of experience against the Headsman's Pride. Though, if a team is looking to snowball off of the bottom lane, banning out An's Sivir and Westoor's more engage-heavy champions could be an option. Ideally, without Sivir's On The Hunt enabling Westdoor and the rest of ahq to get to exactly the right position to win, there's a chance that teams will be able to bring the carries down before they tear through rosters.

Other methods

It might seem a bit sketchy to not aim any bans at either of ahq's monster carries, but there is another way to put ahq on their back foot. That is, aiming bans against their jungler and support. With Albis moving from the jungle spot down to support, and Mountain coming in as the new jungler right before playoffs, ahq has two players who haven't necessarily . Taking aim at them may be just the thing to get under the team's skin. As a result, ahq has largely found success by running disengage compositions, allowing their two carries to do what they need to do to win the game. By taking away Albis' ability to peel for AN, there's a chance that the AD carry could very well be taken out of the fight, albeit indirectly. We have yet to see him prioritize anything but those disengage champions, so forcing him onto something a bit less safe looks like a good way to get in his head. And with Albis only playing two champions more than once in the Playoffs -- Nautilus and Janna -- he might just be the best option for target bans. Alternatively, teams could take aim at Mountain. The newest member of the team, he may not have completely settled down into a symbiotic, synergistic team player. So far, he's been playing very solidly in the ahq style, peeling for AN and Westdoor during early fights, and looking for engages once they've gotten leads. So far, he's been the role player that ahq has needed. He's been performing well, but there is a chance that throwing bans at him could throw him off just enough to break the team's newly minted synergy. And on the international stage of the Mid-Season Invitational, where excellent team play is crucial, that uneasiness may be just the thing to bring ahq down. Make sure to keep your eyes on Lolesports for everything MSI. And remember that matches start up May 7! ahq will be facing of against EDG in the third match of the day.

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43 Comments

Amuq the Great7 votes

Riot has proofreaders who haven't necessarily.

ShadowFiend8125 votes

It's ok Taiwan got an article and eu didn't lol maybe someone from eu should write one...

Underestimated5 votes

Yeah, it's not like this site is NA.lolesports.com or anything

Emuiral9 votes

i feel like this has been pointed out multiple times; you may be viewing this on the NA site but the EUW and NA have the same content. i'm on the euw site and i am seeing no EU articles.

Serevas3 votes

I think the reason the articles are so focused on NA is that NA is where most of the news is happening.

In EU Fnatic takes the split, what a surprise.

Krepo retires, that is news worthy, but it just happened, so news on that is still coming.

That being said, the guy is 24 and has been playing professionally for a long time, it wasn't too surprising that after a disappointing split, he might step down, and retire. Not to mention it wouldn't be surprising to me if Froggen retired either as he's talked about it on his stream several times.

I'm not trying to be rude at all, but this season NA is where the news has been, not EU, that's why on a shared site the articles favor NA. EU just fell off the horse this year, I'm not sure why, but they did. That's really all there is to it.

RiotTayTay Bot11 votes

Don't worry, EU will be coming in the next few days! :)

We'll have articles and videos for all the regions playing at MSI!

ShadowFiend8122 votes

Yay maybe I'll finally know what's happening in Europe :D

Cheryl Cole3 votes

Hi.. Ty for noticing, but still....NA has like like 5-7 articles, even wildcards have their own, and now ahqs. Im not sure if few articles about MSI will fix it. Krepo ended his career, but still its "legend" Hai who we are reading first about (not like there will be any article about Krepo at all). Im EU and right now... it feels like im from oceania. Region riot gives a shit about.

SAFFATLOL9 votes

Hai announced his retirement like a week ago while Krepo did it yesterday. It takes time to write articles. Instead of complaining go look to other site for articles on EU. There are many sites where you can find articles instead of just lolesports

Vixanys20 votes

I swear each region has their persecution theories about how Riot doesn't care about their region! Hell even NA has the East Coast complaining about how the West Coast is more preferred.

The only region that has a right to complain about being neglected is the North Pole. I never hear anything about them!! WHY IS THAT RIOT! CONSPIRACY MUCH!?!?!?!

Cheryl Cole2 votes

Im sorry, but why should i look to other sites for articles about EU? With all the respect. If you recommend me this, you are only proving im right.

DoubleWhiff1 votes

But I guess Japan has nothing to complain about, I mean they have their own region, right???

VitalSpark2 votes

(na.lolesports.com) dunno bro

Dosarus3 votes

The problem with saying "na.lolesports.com" is that even if you go to "euw.lolesports.com" you get the same articles. This season has shown lack of articles from EU and all the hype has been coming from NA. Other regions have their own sites so they can have articles for themselves, however since EU and NA "operate" form the same site. EU fans will only see NA article being posted. If you visit the brazilian league page and go to esports you see alot of articles focused on the international wild card and even further back on the brazilian scene. You go to EU and you see nothing but NA articles with a few EU articles and international stuff here and there.

TheLordOfFamine1 votes

To be completely fair, Bjerg gets the most hype in NA, and everyone cheers for him. Which means in a way, EU is being hyped and recognized because you gave us NA's MVP. Be happy, because if any of your players matched the skill of NA's top players we would add them to our rosters too. Almost like the worlds a buffet and NA is feasting.

Spacieux2 votes

The site is called na.~~~~ Obviously it is North American based and you can tell just by the articles. And honestly I do not think the Hai krepo point is valid because like someone said there is a time lapse between the two announcements. Articles take time to make.

Thunderbird3301 votes

Just to address almost everyone who replied to this comment somewhere...

I'm not promoting region inequality, but to be fair, Riot is based in southern California, on the west coast of NA. So it seems natural, if not optimal, that they would preferentially address that region (more or first).

Also, my comment's coming a bit late, as I just finished reading the EU article. So be patient, everyone, Riot has it covered.

Dibony2 votes

video looks cool

Bardatzard2 votes

"With Albis moving from the jungle spot down to support, and Mountain coming in as the new jungler right before playoffs, AHQ has two players who haven't necessarily . Taking aim at them may be just the thing to get under the team's skin."

who haven't necessarily .

Thunderbird3301 votes

I was wondering about that; one of the images won't load for me either. Guess this article has a few little issues, but hey, they're busy, so I'm not gonna bother them now...

Scooby Pwns On U2 votes

the only thing interesting AHQ can show us at msi is if EU has fallen far enough to be below SEA in skill level yet....

Troll Pool1 votes

Funny how EU has suddenly dropped to trash tier after 1 tournament. You haven't even seen any of the top 3 EU teams internationally. While we've seen the best NA team on a miracle run already.

Wether EU or NA is better then each other won't matter, like it never has. It's like comparing plat to diamond while Korea and China are on Challenger.

Luko2 votes

I saw a few of the AHQ games during their gauntlet and I actually think they are a pretty good team. In my opinion, the only reason why the Taiwnese top teams aren't better then the NA/EU top teams is because they used to play in the GPL prior to this season, where they really didn't have much competition, so they only play like 2/3 games where they really had to prepare. That's why they did so poorly internationally, where every game you play is hard. Now I can expect that in the future the LMS teams will be closer to the LPL/LCK level, first because they are close to those regions and can regulary play against teams like EDG and SKT (unlike teams from EU and NA), and secondly because of the LMS itself, where the teams competing are way better then the teams in the GPL. I am not saying that Taiwan is better than NA/EU right now, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if AHQ wins games against Fnatic or TSM during MSI.

Pure Sexiness2 votes

i bet 10 cents edg gonna take the victory

Yanne1 votes

That sivir splash art from the video..

Jingerbeardman1 votes

did not notice that... wtf? I thought they unified all the splash arts now. Why is there a better sivir splash elsewhere? (i still dont like the newest splash, its just plain awkward...)

I really wish they would just unify the splash art.

Distorta1 votes

ya being "migrated" down to support, is a promotion in utility

TheGrandAlliance1 votes

AHQ isn't taking anything....

Vixanys1 votes

inb4 Fnatic lose a game to AHQ. It's Kabuum! 2.0

SAFFATLOL1 votes

AHQ are underestimated IMO. Wouldn't be on the level of Kabum though. Would have to be Besiktas beating Fnatic

Vixanys1 votes

Turks to take on the French/Dutch/Koreans of Fnatic! I could see it.

BlackIceSoul1 votes

At least put the right picture..the second picture is not their ADC, An; the guy in the second picture is their support, Albis, who used to be their jungler in the regular season. Albis took over the supporting role in playoffs after GreenTea stepped down from the starting lineup.

MorningWhiskey1 votes

"With Albis moving from the jungle spot down to support, and Mountain coming in as the new jungler right before playoffs, AHQ has two players who haven't necessarily . "

Necessarily what? Proofread pls

Humble Pi1 votes

EU shall prove It's superiority at worlds.

OhHSOXqHBi1 votes

finally he did it

Like to like1 votes

Ahri Geez, nobody from AHQ, watching LPL final? I really can't see through how can they keep the faith to get MSI.....

RyzeRework1 votes

compareing ahq to the worlds is like comparing bronze to challenger just cause ur good there doesnt mean youd be a challenger player

ƒƒorAFK1 votes

this is gonna sound pretty dumb...but for the life of me idk what champ that is in between urgot and naut..can someone fill me in? in the youtube video before you click to start it

Fapstein1 votes

That would be the feisty Sivir

Alyosha K1 votes

Cool article.

But I laughed. To pretend South East Asia can beat China and South Korea is a joke. Pure joke. Seriously, AHQ has no chance. "How to you deal with X player" ? How about you pit them against teams that are superiour at every single role with veterent status on many players ? This is almost as ricidulous as these articles pretending NA and EU won't get destroyed at Worlds.

Vixanys3 votes

This article is only meant to hype up MSI and to be fair there have been stranger things than a SEA team beating a CN or KR team. WE beating GET (IEM Katowice)? Kabuum beating Alliance (2014 Worlds)? HSGG not keeping his hot pink hair!

It is their job to hype every team in the event, it gets people riled up (as it has apparently done to you). As emotions get higher when/if any crazy events happen it just becomes that more exciting.

While the vast majority of opinions are they are going to be crushed (maybe rightly so) what's the harm in a little hype?

GhØst Project1 votes

Obviously someone doesn't watch all the regions. TSM is looking to be on a similar level as the top Korean and Chinese teams. Who knows if they'll keep performing and improving as they have been, but for once NA looks like it can bring a fight to the top levels of competition. Don't believe it? Just watch MSI.

fatykiller1 votes

erm... the photo of albis and AN is wrong ~ AN the ADC is the one with short hair ,and Albis the support is the one longer hair :)

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