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Curse vs TSM - A Growing Rivalry

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The rivalry between Team Solo Mid and Curse Gaming has been one-sided one for years. Curse has never won a major tournament against TSM, while TSM has appeared in every World Championship, and beaten down Curse along the way each time. Curse looked like they may have finally found an upper hand in the 2013 LCS spring split, only to fall short and watch TSM claim yet another title. Year after year, split after split, Curse has watched from the outside as TSM stood at the top of the mountain (or close to the top, since Cloud 9 joined the scene). TSM fans would argue that there really wasn’t even a rivalry to speak of between the two teams. However, all that changed when Xpecial joined Curse.

This Time, It’s Personal

Last split’s TSM looked quite different from the team that finished third in Season 1. TheRainMan had long since been replaced by Dyrus, the faltering Chaox was quickly overshadowed by Wildturtle, and Reginald finally stepped down for the young EU star, Bjergsen. Only TheOddOne and Xpecial were left of the old guard. TheOddOne retired and remained as a coach with the team, but the shock of the offseason came when it was announced that Xpecial was being benched and removed from the team. After a second place finish, TSM owner Reginald had made the decision to remove one of his most experienced players, for an unproven challenger player in Gleebglarbu, whose team (Cloud 9 Tempest) had failed to qualify for the LCS. While a shock on the surface, the move had been coming for a long time. Fans who watched TSM’s reality show Game Cribs will be familiar with the rift that had been forming between Xpecial and Reginald. Coming out of an impressive performance at the 2013 All Stars, Xpecial was ready to take on a larger leadership role within the team. The secret to beating TSM had always been to get Reginald off his game and affect his shot calling, and Xpecial hoped to alleviate some of that pressure by stepping up as another voice. Episodes of Game Cribs were filled with heated arguments between Xpecial and Reginald, making it clear that TSM’s captain was not interested in having Xpecial take the reins any time soon. That rift would eventually result in Xpecial being benched, and eventually picked up by Curse. Now on Curse, a team that has struggled to find effective leadership since the retirement of Saintvicous, Xpecial will have the opportunity to prove what kind of leader he can be. The rest of Curse’s roster now has a solid split under their belt, and each player has shown moments of star quality in the past. The only thing left to pull Curse up to the next level will be the team’s leadership. Curse’s record at the end of this split could be Xpecial’s best way to tell his former team what they lost by getting rid of him.

“They’re Just My Enemies”

Things are clearly not “okay” between Xpecial and his former teammates. In the matchup feature before their debut game, Xpecial made it clear that TSM’s members are “just my enemies.” After the match, WildTurtle went in for a hug with his former lane partner, and was met with denial. He is out to prove himself to the world, and prove his old team wrong. The only way for him to accomplish his goal is to defeat TSM in this split. The rivalry has heated up, and won’t be cooling down any time soon.

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55 Comments

hizzy on drugs30 votes

i am guessing you haven't seen any game cribs or any other video with TSM interacting with each other. reggie is the most immature person in TSM. when ever reggie got into a argument with someone on the team he went into middle school mode. People should have to "adapt" to a leader. a good leader inspires, and reggie's middle school ego is not capable of doing that.

BrainD4mageD16 votes

I think Regi is too abusive of his power, he is constantly trying to prove he is the boss by humiliating the others. Rich spoiled kid, I feel sad for the TSM players because they are so nice.

FatWeasel6 votes

was xpecial bringing down the team? Yes. Did the whole team agree to get rid of Xpecial? Yes. Do you know Regi? No, neither do I but all his teamates and TSM say he's an inspiration and there's no1 like him in the NA scene. Dyrus said the only person to come close to Regi was Hotshot

LGC Hearts11 votes

and hotshot's an asshole too

ManiDest7 votes

it still doesnt excuse Xspecial refusing to hug his former lane buddy, i mann look at Wild Turtles face, how can u say no to that smile? even if Regi was in the wrong in fights such as that, Xspecial was not nice to wildturtle :<

Fabss8 votes

What a ridiculous comment. There is a difference between asking for a hug and just hugging. No one wants to hug someone else after losing a close game like that, but it's perfectly fine to be hugged after losing a game like that. This is why he allowed Bjergsen to hug him, but didn't hug WildTurtle. I think WildTurtle is at fault for expecting Xpecial to give him a hug after kicking him off the team and beating him in a very close game.

The25thBaam2 votes

TBh Just logg in to up vote but agreed that TSM has too much drama especially how teams like this are the reason why some players act as they are because of watching streams on pro teams. Players probably taking reggis attitude and thinks its ok to act like that(act of childish and mean). This is one of the main reasons why Tsm has been doing so good anymore in lcs.

Cipher4 votes

Very true. Back when he was a mid-laner, he seemed like such a toxic presence on the team. He'd throw a tantrum every time they lost, blaming everyone and talking trash about how he 'carried' them so hard. I feel sorry for everyone on TSM that have to put up with him. It has to suck to have a boss like that.

Ätsû1 votes

Middle School mode 4 the win!!!!

DNG Skeeze18 votes

Brain damage hit it on the spot wild turtle is a coward. When u watch the vide of xpecial and regi getting in an arguement turtle says nothing while xpecial stands up for him. No one on tsm had the balls to stand up to regi besides xpecial. When ur friend stands up for you and says no that wasn't the only reason we lost and u and the rest of the team say nothing it builds resentment. He was basically left high and dry by his "friends". The fact is that if ur playing right no one play costs u the game. There are multiple mistakes that led up to the "ultimate mistake" that cost u that game. Because if u hadn't made all the mistakes previously having the adc die wouldn't cost u the game. To blame one game on one person dying one time is absurd. It's a team game everyone made mistakes. Turtle is a coward end of story.

Kyrll3 votes

The only other person on that team that I've seen stand up to regi was Dyrus and Regi threatened to kick him off the team. This was a long time coming. Regi and Xpecial were at odds for too long, so it was eventually gonna hurt TSM and looks like it did this split.

kmlmk1 votes

aahhhja as far as i remember chaox was not replaced cause performance but cause having troubble with regi everyone who hade a bigger argument with regi suddenly left the team and that wildturtle should have been better 4 tsm than chaox is a bad joke even when he is mechanicly good a lot of tsm awsome season 2 inovations came from chaox and that was what build their fanbase.... a team is not just searching 4 the best solo players and putt them together somethimes a team is better as a whole than the 5 players skills added together and tsm is going 2 experience that

Cipher4 votes

Turtle was the new guy on the team at that point. He replaced Chaox who got fired by Reggie for his attitude, so I can totally understand why WildTurtle didn't want to argue with the owner of the team. It can't be easy to be the new guy with no job-security at all, and then have your boss be an abusive brat who rages and flames at you.

It was nice of xpecial to stand up for his ADC, as a good support should do, but it's Reginald and his toxic attitude that is the real problem on TSM, and he's never going to get a World's championship on any team that he's on. I hope that Bjergerking and the rest of the TSM line-up eventually make it to better teams that have a more professional and less toxic environment.

wickedal9 votes

It looks like Xspecial definitely felt betrayed and his other teammates, like Wildturtle, didnt back him up. But all things aside, this is such a bs. Last time i check, tsm went from last season second place when they have Xspecial on the team to fourth place this season grabbing a 3-3. Not only getting destroyed by their old rival C9, but getting beaten by CLG and dignitas. I luv TSM and being its supporter since the beginning. Now, with Xspecial and the Oddone stepping down., the club looks like an all-star club instead of family crib to me.

Marvelous Agarwe8 votes

In his vlog, Xpecial said that his behavior was consulted with all the players and that they did not like it either. So that's why he is so bitter now, not just Regi, but the players let him go as well. And honestly a hug is something you do with a friend, I completely understand that move. To all that were wondering about why he is unfriendly towards the players as well...

SJThrawn5 votes

People wonder why the NA is weak when compared to the Korean Scene when it comes to ESports? It is because we value personality over results. This something that had kept certainly players their roles in some teams, and as it accumulates fans, stream viewers, etc. The greater the personality the easier time you will have when it comes to being a Pro Player. In Korea players are constantly being pushed to be the best as well as constantly watching out for their replacement. They cannot slack off and focus on meaningless emotions and such as results are what keeps your job as a player. Don't believe me? Watch the SC Korean Pro's (Mostly Brood War players), I don't even think they crack a smile after win with their great Poker Faces. (SC2, they show a lot more emotion when compared to the BW era of Pro Play)

Trying to do so here in the NA LCS is a lot tougher as most of the good NA players have great personalities, so even if they begin to fade away in skill they still are kept simply because they bring in viewers and often show a glimmer of past glory into their play. I'm not saying that Xpecial is washed up, nor am I saying that what Regginald did as a Manager/Coach was the greatest plan, but you have to respect the idea that if a person on your team is not performing you have to do something. Either way, the results will speak for itself, because at the end of the day only the top 3 Teams will make a trip to Worlds to represent North America.

Fabss16 votes

Xpecial was not kicked for performance - he was kicked because Reginald didn't like his attitude, and everyone agrees with Reginald because he is their boss (and an immature kid who would take it out on you if you ever disagreed with him).

The25thBaam1 votes

upvote sir

Project Anivia3 votes

Xpecial is was a great player for TSM. Honestly, he got booted off the team because of the rivalry between Reginald and him. Reginald is, admittedly, a hothead. He thought he was making a good move by removing one of the best supports the best support in NA from his team, so be it. Xpecial felt betrayed by his coach, someone who he probably thought he deserved respect from. Why he's taking it out on WildTurtle is anybody's guess, but I'm sure most of the hate is directed towards Reginald. I mean, how could you hate Dyrus?

PoshLexy0074 votes

He wasn't and isn't the best support in my opinion, Aphromoo is outshining him in every aspect of supporting including the shot-calling.

The NGneer14 votes

Even if he isn't the best you can't convince me Gleeb is better than Xpecial.

Kyrll5 votes

True, but half the world agrees Aphromoo and Xpecial are the best supports in the NA scene.

PedestrianA5 votes

Xpecial was indeed the best support NA. Aphromoo only step up and take over at the spring split.

Frunxx2 votes

I can understand why everyone wants to point their fingers at reggie, but when removing a player, especially an old guard like xpecial. That's definetly a group decision.

PiMpOwNzU2 votes

You know xspecial was there at the beginning... to be kicked out off the team and no one saying a word... none of the TSM deserves a hug. Whether he's currently the best NA support is not a question, he definitely can be, hands down. Reggie, in my opinion, did not give him the respect he should have. Especially as one of the original member who was there from the start. Just imagine you were one of the 5 guys who started a company, then it doesn't do so hot. But you get kicked out, for trying to help make the team better... I'd be pissed too. Honestly, will it hurt the team to at least give the MAN a CHANCE???

Reckling2 votes

I think it's funny what people consider an asshole. I think people are just cry babies. If someone doesn't say something that isn't sugar coated with whipped cream and cherry's on top it insta locks them as being an asshole. Criticism is a part of life, and it's always going to come from your boss ( Hint: Regi owns TSM), grow up and use the criticism in positive ways or cry and do nothing and become a homeless Obama supporter looking for a handout. I hate that Xpecial isn't on TSM anymore as well but a business decision is a business decision, crying about isn't going to change anything.

kmlmk1 votes

ppl musst be aware that they are not alone they play on a huge stage and when u don't behave nice in puplic u are either stupid or an asshole

Bungkai2 votes

Why is this article making Xpecial out as the enemy?

Kountervibe1 votes

Xpecial sounds like a child. Of course everyone in this world gets mad at one point or another. But in this case is very stupid. Xpecial needed to adapt to Regi and the rest of the team FULLY so they didnt have arguements. They should of done other things as a compromise so that they get the best performance out of the team and everyone wins. I guess its to late for that now. I wish Xpecial the best of luck and I hope that TSM's new Jungler and Support are at their game because i enjoy watching them :)

BrainD4mageD7 votes

Well, I respect him for having the balls to tell his boss he is being abusive or wrong. Did you see Regi putting all the blame on WildTurtle on the car after a loss to CLG? It was Xpecial who stood up for him, pointing out they lost for a number of reasons (it's a team game, after all), and ended up being the target of Regi's rage while WT kept quiet. I understand his rage, I believe it will eventually be (rightfuly) focused on Regi later on.

PedestrianA1 votes

The TSM and CLG story kinda shows that, in the long run, democratic leadership wins.

VentusInfinitas1 votes

There was definitely a lot of heat and struggle in TSM before the benching and I think a lot of it was Regi. While all of Reginald's arguments in the videos were true he expressed it in such a way that only brought more conflict. Like in the video where Dyrus was arguing with Regi. While Dyrus was flaming and hitting the table Regi expressed his anger in a way that only made him more unpopular with the team. And if I was in Xpecial's situation when Regi was flaming at Turtle I would feel like I should protect my friend. I think the problem here is that Regi is very stubborn. His arguments are always true but he is way to forceful with the way he expresses them. I think that all the TSM players liked Xpecial and when Regi said that the decision to bench Xpecial was "team collaborated" that is some bull. Xpecial had some problems and Regi had some problems but no one made an effort to calm the storm between the two. I hope Xpecial is adapting to his new home at Curse but I feel like benching him was one of the worst desicions in LCS history.

The25thBaam1 votes

TSM too much drama . Now DoubleLift OP

Mik x Irelia1 votes

make a team based on stats - best jungler in world, best mid in world , best top, best adc , best supp and ask who will beat them no one riot wont do this cuz its all entertainment and want to make it fair and give ppl a chance to hold the cup.. make the god team and bring any team against them no one will beat them .

King Kuntà1 votes

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pytorn781 votes

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boocab1 votes

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IcyBlueButthole1 votes

People need to understand, when you are on a team, the coach/owner is in charge. It's not democratic. Think of any professional sports team. They all have an owner who is the boss, and a coach who is in charge of the players. No matter how much of a dick the owner or coach might be, it's the players' responsibility to change the way they act to fit with the coach and owner. Xpecial was a TSM player. No matter how much he may have disliked the way Reginald ran things, it's his responsibility to say "yes sir" to whatever Reginald tells him. If he dislikes it, then it's his responsibility to leave. Players don't have the right to butt heads with management. They either put up with it nd stay quiet, or leave because they are unhappy.

hunter the first1 votes

shit just got serous

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