I watched a game yesterday with tsm. I watched the first game of this match. Why do teams not ban Nidalee? All three games Nid has about no deaths and a lot of kills. Why not ban the champ? Why did NV pick Anivia and Kog when neither of them seem that strong and weirdo picks?
Marshbouy2 votesBanning or not banning a champion is really highly disputed. They might have been banning someone even more worth a ban then nid.
LoL Ergo Urgot1 votesI can understand that but NV got steam rolled by TSM comp and let them pick the exact same comp. I understand what your saying but this seems ridiculous.
Marshbouy1 votesI dunno man. I'm not an LCS team.
MatthewRT21 voteswell if they would have banned nid instead of taliyah they'd have given their mid one of his current best champs
angery pout2 votesBans aren't just about what's OP (though extreme exceptions like Kassa and Mord WILL be ban slammed.) In pro play people focus more on comps and banning what counters their comp outside of the occasional targeting a lane/player for bans. NV likely didn't ban Nidalee because they felt that Rek'Sai was more of a threat to their team. Svenskeren is also one of the better Rek'Sai players on LCS (my opinion only.)
NV isn't the best team and I don't watch them often unless they're against teams I enjoy watching (CLG, TL, FNC, OG) and my boyfriends teams (C9, TSM) so I don't know their playstyle very well. It's hard to tell what they were planning on outside of banning out the Rek'Sai that could flash + knockup the Kog and Ashe.
My opinion only: Rek'Sai is a very good ban for LCS because of her overall utility that can be abused. The tremor sense allows for tracking without direct vision while also being a tank and offering that utility. Nidalee has primarily damage and jungle control (less after her traps and hunt passive were nerfed.) Rek'Sai has not had her jungle control nerfed.
I know Taliyah, Shen, and Vlad also found themselves banned. Bjergsen is the only mid I've seen play Taliyah and it was to great success. Shen is very strong and does very well against ADCs that struggle with kiting (Kog'Maw.) Vlad is just... Vlad. It's not a wasted ban because of how many resources it takes to kill one is all I can get at.
NV probably should have banned Nidalee during Game 2.
LoL Ergo Urgot1 votesWhat once was befuddlement, I now grok.. This was appreciated. I didn't want to believe my flippant analysis. +1
angery pout1 votesThank you for the feedback. Nidalee did also have a very high ban rate before Cinderhulk buffs, btw. It was mostly banned by the team that didn't have first pick. People were terrified of her around MSI and the time before then. She's still very strong, but there are scarier things now.
LoL Ergo Urgot1 votesMaybe it is like golf. Maybe NV doesn't have the nerve to play on a big stage? I am not a big golf watchers but I know a lot of them crack under pressure. I guess that is like any sport now that I think about it. Nvm. Idk.
GForce9x1 votesThere are a lot of players/ teams that don't perform on stage the same way they do in practice or in scrims. Probably just something universal across all sports depending on the person.
To tack on to your original post, it's really hard only having 3 bans. As already mentioned, sometimes the teams already have their comp set in mind, especially if playing on blue side so they will ban typical counters or high level threats to that comp, with adjustments made based on who they are playing and their history with certain champs.
More often than not, someone goes off and puts on their carry pants and totally steamrolls a game, the opposing team will ban that champ for the next game. Prime example is how TSM banned Rengar from game 3 after they got destroyed by him in game 2 yesterday against P1. Sometimes it is questionable when that kind of ban doesn't take place and often you will hear the casters comment on it as well. There are probably reasons, but it does look pretty bad when that champ is picked again and gets to have their way all over the game.