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Riot partnering with B1G, ESPN, and other netweorks.

Kaligary··1 votes·1,211 views

I'm a little worried about our community. Obviously, since League of Legends has been shouted as an "E-Sport" networks have been looking into the revenue of league. This of course will draw a lot of attention since League produces so much revenue. What I'm worried about, is if riot were to partner with these folks, and give them access to how some things go, could we eventually see the say... Leagues turn to mainstream? I don't really know how to put it. I just don't want to see Fox, Espn, or BTN take over streaming and such and completely ruin the experience of it all.

Thoughts, opinions, the sweet reassurance of Riot that this will never happen? summoner 3

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III BAKURYU III 3 votes

I'm not disagreeing or agreeing but I am confused about what you mean ? " I just don't want to see Fox, Espn, or BTN take over streaming and such and completely ruin the experience of it all".

  • How so? Riot is trying to branch with some of these companies and other "sports" that have been around for 50+ years so they can stay afloat for the years to come also.

I can't predict the future but I can see both sides of the coin, maybe clearer on the benefits than the cons of the argument. Riot needs/want sponsors; it's a way to make money and not just solely off viewers from their own league games. Let's say the NBA sponsors League(Riot); Money income for the NBA, league(Riot) and the sponsor which for the NBA could be Sprite, and/or Nike which instead of footwear it could be hand or wrist wear so the pros/civilians can play League without as much pain in their wrists etc, similar to a baseball glove from say The MLB.

A few years ago I was an avid wrestling fan, I watched WWE, TNA etc but WWE had more than what TNA had at the time and still do because of sponsors which again generates $, between the two companies more people will recall or think of something from say WWE before they do TNA because of the sponsors and the more attention they get.
Sure WWE does some weird commercials between their shows like the KFC Chicken commercial etc, but that comes with business side of things.
A few months ago I recalled a XXX Movie trailer that aired a few times during the playoffs but did that "change" League or Riot for the worse? Maybe, I don't know what it cost Riot to have that or for that film company on how much potential $ they lost but it was a gamble that's necessary honestly.

I love League, Riot, LCS but times are coming ahead where they need to start thinking about the bigger picture! They can't just rely on people/viewers to watch their games because "league is fun" but for how much longer ? Hell 30% of the community are already tired of League but with sponsors, commercials, ads it can help create buzz around the products to buy interest into League and the future of the product.

Have you ever wanted to know about certain player trades,movements,certain players retiring ? Most of the articles that I myself found out about certain stuff was from ESPN.com and not League itself! For a company that are in the dark and are "lone wolves" they do a piss poor job keeping their fans up 2 date with their own League.

A regular player who has NO interest watching the LCS but instead just plays the game, but they LOVE X product that sponsors the NBA, NFL etc etc they might see a commercial with say Bjergsen in a Burgerking commercial and may think " Wow, he plays the same game I do and is famous, has his own commercial etc" it brings attention to both sides of the coin.

Great topic and have a good one!

Hellmet3 votes

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Have you ever wanted to know about certain player trades,movements,certain players retiring ? Most of the articles that I myself found out about certain stuff was from ESPN.com and not League itself! For a company that are in the dark and are "lone wolves" they do a piss poor job keeping their fans up 2 date with their own League.

Great topic and have a good one!

Just wanted to agree with this, we had a huge story line this week with Meteos getting traded from C9 to Phoenix and I had no idea.. I just got lucky when I decided to watch the C9 game on Sunday and was stunned to see him on the other team. I googled to get any info and nothing, NOTHING on the internet about it. lol

As a fan of Meteos it was one of the most entertaining games of the year watching him pound C9 into the ground. Riot needs to do a much better job at capturing these moments, hyping them up and getting people excited about the game.

As a suggestion, maybe they should take some notes from NASCAR. It has to be one of the most boring sports to watch cars go around in circles for 4 hours but the production is top notch and the coverage makes you want to watch and not miss anything that might happen. Can you say Daytona?

III BAKURYU III 2 votes

Honestly if it wasn't for people on the boards or ESPN.com etc, I wouldn't know much of anything that's currently happening about League.
Go to lolEsports.com you don't get much articles or much of anything.
However something that has bothered me the longest time about League(LCS) are the stats! Ok, so Riot are trying to do a league similar to the NBA with player stats etc but no leaderboard of those certain stats, lets say Faker retires and 5 years from now a random person bring up a conversation like Person A - " Have you ever watched League or heard of Faker ?" Person B - " Yeah, but was he good and he couldn't have been better than Bjergsen"

  • What could person A say or bring up to the B person to show or explain how great Faker was ? Stats he all time stats, regular season, playoffs, Worlds etc etc! However Riot doesn't share any of that s$it until say a week or so when the topic is already on the front door or whenever they want to bring it up.

Don't quote me because I may have either the time or player wrong! Somewhere during the 2015 NA split a player was close to a certain Assist stat something like 1200 assists or something and Riot brought up a leaderboard - What were is their leaderboard at and why hide it, also they brought that certain player's stats but 3-4 other player's total assists already passed milestones and no mention about their stats! It's something that has always bothered me, but it needs either more attention or less lazy people from the Riot department.

" As a fan of Meteos it was one of the most entertaining games of the year watching him pound C9 into the ground. Riot needs to do a much better job at capturing these moments, hyping them up and getting people excited about the game ".

  • Indeed, no hype video or pre game interview with either Meteos or Sneaky etc wasted potential from Riot! Hell the only cool part was when they hugged but it could have been much more.
    Hype videos - Sucks, and any "hype video" they have they show over and over. Remember the C9 vs FQ hype video on say youtube a day or so before their game, what about the hype video before the broadcast actually began or the video when their game was about to start, it was the same video!
    Or when a new split starts and the title on the official LOL Esports youtube channel says something like " preview or promo" and it's the same video they show on both a week or so before the split starts and when the day off, " LAZY" and how unoriginal!

Honestly, look at EU's hype video for the 2017 Spring split https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfz3KQyZcP0 It's ok but nothing special!

Now look at NA's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eMUbbhCB3Y It sucks! It's players doing mundane things like sleeping, putting on their glasses with constant " X player will do this, X player has won the NA championship but no video no up beat song, music etc it's.... boring!
Where's the energy- for example TSM vs CLG moments with Aprhomoo speaking about wanting to face TSM again with clips of both TSM and CLG's greatest games, moments.
Froggen saying something like " I will show people why I'm still considered top 3 Mid in the world. Ryu, Chaser, Looper being shown a clip or two about their time with their previous teams etc.
But nope, just another video of players...... walking......... Walking LCS on AMC

" As a suggestion, maybe they should take some notes from NASCAR. It has to be one of the most boring sports to watch cars go around in circles for 4 hours but the production is top notch and the coverage makes you want to watch and not miss anything that might happen. Can you say Daytona?

  • Not much of a Nascar watcher but I have watched a few races back in the past and I do agree with you with " production is top notch and the coverage makes you want to watch"

  • Indeed, you get constant info and the casters for those races are entertaining, where for League it's the same puns, jokes, memes 24/7.

    Which brings me to another point where people are crying over PTL. PTL is 90% memes, jokes and childish s$it with 10% of real info like stats, real stuff , if you enjoy PTL for what it was/is THAT'S GREAT, I applaud you and keep on keeping on, but the show was straight garbage.
    Segments with " Can you guess what nose this belongs to" was really stupid, maybe for viewers that are 15 and younger found that stuff hilarious but most of the 25 and older viewers thought the show sucked.

........................................................... PROS -Things I like about the LCS and the direction it's taking so far - CONS - Things I would like Riot to improve on. Slightly!

I'm LOVING the in game interviews It gives the games a sense of importance and makes it feel "real" like a journalist covering those teams/players.
Maybe something Riot could do is also have regular fans ask questions from time to time to the interviews like " What could Sneaky play to be better in lane" from say a 5-10 year old child and it gives the casters in game questions or theories to the viewers on why " this is a strong reason A-B-C etc"

Pick em's ? Riot has Worlds pick'ems but no regular season pick'ems ?
Not only would this help Riot to branch off and potential get recruiters to possibly work for Riot if they get say 90% of their picks right but also gives fans that don't the game but only watch a gamemode for them also. As in game you have Summoner's rift, Aram, 3v3, ranked and more. World 100% correct picks - Last year I thought only 1 person won the World pick'em but no name, no honor, no congratulations( from my knowledge) maybe Riot sent that person a gift basket IDK but why not have the 100% correct World pick'em winners actually play in a game with the pros say............ ALL STARS !

Sorry for the long post, but when you care about something it needs to be said in full.

  • Thank you and Have a good one!
Kaligary2 votes

The thing I'm mostly worried about is censorship, and paid viewing. Like, I get it, right? Pay to watch would boast revenue ten fold. Like NFL Sunday ticket. I'm more concerned that these bigger companies may abuse their sponsored position for esports and move it from "hey, we're live and streaming worlds" to "you gotta pay 75$ to watch all of todays matches. As far as censorship goes, when you start pulling in rules and regulations it makes the scene less engaging for fans. I know NCAA is no pro scene. But if a player celebrates a td, he gets penalized for it.

Last year at worlds one of the casters brought this up. The whole crap talking between pkayers and teams and fans ect ect. He said in moderation this was healthy for the competitive side of the sport. I agree. But wouldn't it be a problem concerning an outside source? Say someone like Fox, or espn seeing this and censoring it because they want it to be family friendly?

It's not just the stream service, and the censorship that worries me either. It's also the players. Once Riot starts partnering with more and more sponsors and eventually becomes reliant on said sponsors then they basically sell the rights to say "Hey! You can or can not do this, or we will stop giving you money!"

On the surfave, people see riot as greedy. This is entirely false. Riot has possibly the most fair system going for them. They care about their players, their game, and what they've built over the years. This much can be seen from their support team. I mean they got mad because an ISP was bottlenecking players internet speds purposefully, and they pursued it! Most companies would shrug that off. Riot cares deeply. This is why I love Riot. But I'm afraid if they dive too deep with these heavy sponsors it could potentially ruin the LCS and the League scene all together.

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

I can see where you're coming from honestly and you do make some great points that aren't just facts but educated guesses that are real arguments. The paid viewing could and most likely might come to pass in the future; however $75 for Worlds per week is a little much considering how young League is at the moment it wouldn't be $75 but I'm not arguing over the cost because it's neither here nor there but I do see the flip side of things with potential sponsors etc and you do make a great point because of that. One thing I would add is that with people needing to pay to watch the LCS it will give Riot a harder # count of people who are interested in their product(LCS) instead of just the game(Free) and because it's on twitch, many people only support the LCS or watch it because it is on twitch a site that people love and care about so the # viewers are 50/50 between fans of the lcs and just the casual viewers because it's on their favorite site.

" Last year at worlds one of the casters brought this up. The whole crap talking between pkayers and teams and fans ect ect. He said in moderation this was healthy for the competitive side of the sport. I agree. But wouldn't it be a problem concerning an outside source? Say someone like Fox, or espn seeing this and censoring it because they want it to be family friendly"?

  • Agree, trash talking is apart of League but here is my issues regarding it.
  1. Doublelift - D-lift is a prime example of trash talking and yet he gets so much heat because of it and his reasons are innocent often stating " because it's fun", " League would be so boring with it" and yet fans are sick and tired of him because of the trash talk.
  2. Innocent trash talking - Watch some of the TSM vs P1, TSM vs TL trash talking videos it's watered down already to keep an innocent look on things and not make it possibly a real factor in racism, slurs etc. I mean when it came to Svenskeren from the P1 or TL players I thought they were going to bring up the Seraph or 2014 Worlds suspension card, or Bjergsen's slim figure and make a skinny joke(camp) or etc etc but they didn't because the players already know certain bounds and the potential investors don't get the last word in on things.
    An example of this is at the end of the videos where players often say " I'm not going to say that" did they say X comment?, who knows but the players are in control of it and they decide what can be said and cannot; it helps mature the players who are 18-25 years old.

I'm worried about RIot too as I love the LCS but sometimes you need to take chances to make $ for the long run of things. Riot is fine right now but without help it's slowly going down because the product is becoming stale or boring. Look at some of the viewers comments about league both game board and LCS, I would bet 30% of the community are sick and tired of league because it's becoming boring. The hype videos or previews for the games are crap, nothing but players walking no video packages of their highlights, their lcs stat focus is pure garbage.
They will need help as all companies do at some point if they want to stay afloat and survive the business side of things. Overall I 100% understand where you are coming from and I do agree, there are things I wish Riot wouldn't do but we need to support Riot in whatever decisions they do if we do care about them and/or the LCS. Have a good One!

Miror B1 votes

The problem is that for esports as a whole to "expand" they kinda have to do this. I personally don't agree with it (as they're essentially making the visual experience p2p), but in a way it kinda makes sense. TV shows don't profit if they don't draw in paying viewers, who pay for cable subscriptions to get their product. Esports kinda continues the trend, only that the companies can also milk the playerbase for profit in the form of skins/cosmetic crap.

R7 Factor1 votes

Why the fuck would riot partner with big 10?

atomick1 votes

They already did.

atomick1 votes

League of Legends, CS:GO, Overwatch, etc.. making moves with huge franchises is a good thing. The competitions and the future of esports being brought into the mainstream is a good thing. It means longevity for something we all enjoy and more importantly, professionalism to an amateur environment. Everyone's gotta grow up someday, kid. League included. summoner 14

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