Nothing would be better for LoL eSports than more competitive regions out side the LCK. We hear interviews every year that the NA LCS teams get a lot out of their Korean bootcamps and playing against the Korean SoloQue. Why not make a way for the LCS teams to play on the Korean SoloQue all year long?
There has to be a way to set up a clean connection between LCS team houses and the Korean LoL servers. Can we make this happen?
ModDaenrysTargaryen6 votesits the issue with ping, americans will get high ping to korea as its on the other side of the world
SciFi Scrivener1 votesFor you and me, yes. But I have to image that Riot could set up something special for LCS teams to get priority packet access to servers to allow for low ping. There could be an international connection issue, I'm not sure. I was hoping to hear from someone at Riot on that one.
ModDaenrysTargaryen2 votesas a person who knows about ping and deals with it alot, yes riot could get priority packet access, which they do in north america with some service providers, it really does not do much, I lived in florida where i got 39 ping with a service provider with no priority packet line i moved to arkansas where i get a 32 ping that is closer the the chicago server and the service provider does have a priority packet line.
sure it will decrease more over greater travel so maybe you get 300 ping to south korea normally, even if riot could pull strings with all service providers you will only drop about 50 ping over that distance. its not riots fault and its not the service providers fault, its the cable that is moving the packets fault. when fiber optic cables are installed on the path you will probably see a very big difference in ping everywhere but i doubt that will happen in the next 10 years.
Faie1 votesCalifornia and Korea are located so far away that light, the fastest thing in the universe, would get 60 ping. If you add connection speeds, you're looking at a minimum ~80 ping for NA pros to play on Korean servers from California. That's not gonna work.
FableBlaze1 votesThe thing is that there are physics limits to how fast data can be moved between different locations. Players can get used to higher ping, at least to some extent. But that would mess up their play when there is virtually no ping (such as worlds for example). So access to korean servers could actually be a bad thing.
BigBellBrute1 votesNothing would be better for LoL eSports than more competitive regions out side the LCK. We hear interviews every year that the NA LCS teams get a lot out of their Korean bootcamps and playing against the Korean SoloQue. Why not make a way for the LCS teams to play on the Korean SoloQue all year long?
There has to be a way to set up a clean connection between LCS team houses and the Korean LoL servers. Can we make this happen?
The ping would be very high. Pros would consider it unplayable. . Even on the NA server alone, if you're near Chicago, you can get pings of 10-15. . If you're on the east or west coast it can be 40-70.
Hemanth1 votesWhy follow LCK playing copy and catchup? Besides the "proxy" singed there is nothing significant that originated from west
Western DOTA teams are able to do it on their own, the LOL ones seem to prioritize streaming
woodvsmurph1 votesMorgana support. Morgana top. Nautilus support and later toplane. On-hit frozen mallet junglers. Camille support. These all originate in NA. Whether or not that's where high elo NA players originally got them from here is a different story. But they came from here. Before they were "discovered" and popularized by high elo players in Korea, they were here. You are correct though on not copying and playing catchup - some teams are FINALLY seeming to begin to understand that. I mean, some good ideas you do have to copy, but others... play your style - don't force yourself to adopt some new style that doesn't fit your team. If you can learn it and be good at it, add it to the arsenal; otherwise, leave it go.
woodvsmurph1 votesTPA played with 100+ ping on na server from their home the year they won worlds. NA could do that with LCK server right now.
Do they really get a lot out of it though? They get ideas. They get to try to copy and paste Korean strategies and meta to their team - with mixed results. And this also leaves them still behind Korea because... they are learning something Korean pro's have already perfected. Meanwhile Korean pros are developing the meta that beats the meta NA is learning from them. So Korea can both play the meta better, and counter the meta.
As Froskurinn (forgive if I misspell) put it (paraphrasing), teams don't NEED to copy Korea. They shouldn't copy Korea. They NEED to find what strategies/playstyles/comps work for THEM. And then work to be the best at what they are good at. If that's early game comps and snowballing, practice so you can beat any teams that stall for late (like samsung did when they won worlds - they weren't close to the best late game, but they never let it get there without having a 20k gold lead). If it's teamfighting, don't force your toplaner or mid to 4-1 or 1-3-1 split just because that's "the meta". If you truly are the best 5v5 team, you pick stuff to waveclear and stop the splitpush but that can also group quickly, and destroy the enemy 5v3 if they refuse to group. Then even if the enemy is splitpushing, you 5 man push down mid faster than either of them can solo push side lane.
Point being - NA should worry less about Korean solo queue and more about themselves. Their mechanics are fine. They need teamwork, decisive decision making, knowing OPTIONS in a situation (not just one option), and knowing things AHEAD OF TIME (not figuring out in the heat of battle or while frantically trying to properly position and catch an enemy out of position).
Korea's not half as genius as people act like they are. I guarantee over 80% of their INSANE NEW BUILDS have been done with positive results by no-name people in solo queue in other regions before they are "discovered/created by Korea". Faker himself said that low/mid elo players actually are the most likely to create a good new build or pick a champ in a new role that turns out to be op - because high elo players are often too scared to do so since they might lose elo. Perhaps that's why Faker plays so many different champs in so many roles.
Just to name a few non-Korean developed strats that I KNOW didn't originate with them or any high elo player:
No, NA would be better served doing more searching WITHIN their region and finding some hidden op stuff in low/mid elo - instead of calling everyone there trash and claiming they can't understand ANYTHING about the game.