Make Korean SoloQue available to LCS teams.

SciFi Scrivener·10/10/2017, 7:35:12 PM·2 votes·961 views

Nothing would be better for LoL eSports than more competitive regions out side the LCK. We hear interviews every year that the NA LCS teams get a lot out of their Korean bootcamps and playing against the Korean SoloQue. Why not make a way for the LCS teams to play on the Korean SoloQue all year long?

There has to be a way to set up a clean connection between LCS team houses and the Korean LoL servers. Can we make this happen?

9 Comments

ModDaenrysTargaryen10/10/2017, 7:41:56 PM6 votes

its the issue with ping, americans will get high ping to korea as its on the other side of the world

Faie10/10/2017, 8:07:57 PM1 votes

California and Korea are located so far away that light, the fastest thing in the universe, would get 60 ping. If you add connection speeds, you're looking at a minimum ~80 ping for NA pros to play on Korean servers from California. That's not gonna work.

FableBlaze10/10/2017, 9:39:35 PM1 votes

The thing is that there are physics limits to how fast data can be moved between different locations. Players can get used to higher ping, at least to some extent. But that would mess up their play when there is virtually no ping (such as worlds for example). So access to korean servers could actually be a bad thing.

BigBellBrute10/11/2017, 2:22:40 AM1 votes

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Nothing would be better for LoL eSports than more competitive regions out side the LCK. We hear interviews every year that the NA LCS teams get a lot out of their Korean bootcamps and playing against the Korean SoloQue. Why not make a way for the LCS teams to play on the Korean SoloQue all year long?

There has to be a way to set up a clean connection between LCS team houses and the Korean LoL servers. Can we make this happen?

The ping would be very high. Pros would consider it unplayable. . Even on the NA server alone, if you're near Chicago, you can get pings of 10-15. . If you're on the east or west coast it can be 40-70.

Hemanth10/11/2017, 4:52:13 AM1 votes

Why follow LCK playing copy and catchup? Besides the "proxy" singed there is nothing significant that originated from west

Western DOTA teams are able to do it on their own, the LOL ones seem to prioritize streaming

woodvsmurph10/11/2017, 4:29:27 PM1 votes

TPA played with 100+ ping on na server from their home the year they won worlds. NA could do that with LCK server right now.

Do they really get a lot out of it though? They get ideas. They get to try to copy and paste Korean strategies and meta to their team - with mixed results. And this also leaves them still behind Korea because... they are learning something Korean pro's have already perfected. Meanwhile Korean pros are developing the meta that beats the meta NA is learning from them. So Korea can both play the meta better, and counter the meta.

As Froskurinn (forgive if I misspell) put it (paraphrasing), teams don't NEED to copy Korea. They shouldn't copy Korea. They NEED to find what strategies/playstyles/comps work for THEM. And then work to be the best at what they are good at. If that's early game comps and snowballing, practice so you can beat any teams that stall for late (like samsung did when they won worlds - they weren't close to the best late game, but they never let it get there without having a 20k gold lead). If it's teamfighting, don't force your toplaner or mid to 4-1 or 1-3-1 split just because that's "the meta". If you truly are the best 5v5 team, you pick stuff to waveclear and stop the splitpush but that can also group quickly, and destroy the enemy 5v3 if they refuse to group. Then even if the enemy is splitpushing, you 5 man push down mid faster than either of them can solo push side lane.

Point being - NA should worry less about Korean solo queue and more about themselves. Their mechanics are fine. They need teamwork, decisive decision making, knowing OPTIONS in a situation (not just one option), and knowing things AHEAD OF TIME (not figuring out in the heat of battle or while frantically trying to properly position and catch an enemy out of position).

Korea's not half as genius as people act like they are. I guarantee over 80% of their INSANE NEW BUILDS have been done with positive results by no-name people in solo queue in other regions before they are "discovered/created by Korea". Faker himself said that low/mid elo players actually are the most likely to create a good new build or pick a champ in a new role that turns out to be op - because high elo players are often too scared to do so since they might lose elo. Perhaps that's why Faker plays so many different champs in so many roles.

Just to name a few non-Korean developed strats that I KNOW didn't originate with them or any high elo player:

  1. Morgana support - old news now, but she used to be a mediocre forgotten mid until people brought her to support role
  2. Nautilus support - because people thought... screw morg support meta, I'm doing something different - and this guy has a lot of cc
  3. Nautilus top - because screw fiora meta that existed around the time his toplane dominance began
  4. On-hit frozen mallet junglers - because it's not just for gnar (and every ranged toplaner not named jayce sadly)
  5. Camille support - cc, shield, lock enemy support or adc in place for a gank - making escape impossible without killing her, good damage, tanky
  6. Morgana top - no longer easily screwed by banshee's veil since it's an ap item now - not so much a tank/mr item for all players. item 3151 item 3165 item 3157 item 3135

No, NA would be better served doing more searching WITHIN their region and finding some hidden op stuff in low/mid elo - instead of calling everyone there trash and claiming they can't understand ANYTHING about the game.