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So how would this affect Fantasy LCS with substitutes?
If your player plays... you get points. If they don't... you don't. It's just like any other fantasy league in the world. So yes, you will get punished if you pick a player who is likely to rotate in and out of their position during the week.
Its not a silly question. Your reply is ignorant of the fact that with substitutions and the increased chance that teams will likely field at least 6-7 players in a split means that the limit of players one person can have should theoretically increase as well. Right now in Fantasy the limit is 7 active and 3 subs. The number of sub slots should increase.
And you, sir, are ignorant of the fact that very few teams will likely be using the rotating sub strategy, and instead sticking with the same 5 players week after week. Therefore, no need to expand the amount of subs in fantasy.
Yes but Riot obviously made the rule to encourage teams to use the rotating sub strategy. Incorporating the midweek/series sub rule is beneficial to a team so there is no reason to think that the rule won't become more widely used in the LCS. What the first guy was probably asking is what will happen once teams start using rotating subs more frequently. Right now due to the possible rotation of subs, people in my fantasy league have been avoiding Pobelter and Huhi.
Raising the minimum amount of subs is really not smart. 2 was already too much. Now every team has to go find someone to add to their roster who will probably never see play, but might not get invited to other teams because they are already a sub.
It actually is quite good for the scene as a whole as well. It would increase the amount of players in each prospective LCS region. This encourages players to pursue a pro-career. It also would allow many players to play what is more comfortable to them. Imagine the chaos and beauty a team like ROCCAT could create if they had Nukeduck and Overpow mid. What do you prepare for a hard pushing Kayle or Morde from Overpow or a vicious assasin from Nukeduck? It would allow some players to better survive meta shifts like Scarra for example. He might still be a Dig player as he and shiphtur have different champ pools. Dig as a result would be a stronger team. And not every team "has" to find extra players it's a choice and teams and players should be the ones to make this strategical choice not rulemakers.
Thank you Riot for enforcing regional limits on teams. It makes me happy knowing that when I watch the LCS I can watch players from my region duking it out, and feel good when we do well in the international scene. Restricting the movements of foreign players between regions even further is a good change in my opinion.
It limits the growth of regions you know, particularly MURICUH since we have the money, but not the talent.
No it doesnt, it actually supports growth.
If teams could just buy 5 Koreans, LCS would be done for, no need to develop local talent.
By allowing some imports Riot forces teams to develop some local talent, but the local talent also gets to play with and against players from other regions.
This is the perfect solution to allow the local scene to grow and still make it stronger by exposing local players to imports throughout the LCS rather than just at 1-2 tournaments per year.
Then we need to find more talent, not buy it from other countries.
What about that silly format of best of 1's in regular split? Why not make it BO2 or BO3?
Because who wants to see a superior format?
More like because time considerations. They want all the games to be on the weekend so people can watch them. And they would like teams to play two different matches a week instead of one. The days are already long just playing 1 match each. Could you imagine how long it would take with a Bo2 or Bo3?
Well, EU already has to watch on thursday and friday, I wouldn't mind some games at the weekend as well
I'm confused as to why this is the case. Way back in Season 3, NA had the Thursday/Friday slot, while EU had the weekend. Why not give one region the weekend in the Spring, and the other region gets the weekend in the Summer? Make it fair for both sides.
That is a really good idea, I hope Riot read this
The initial analysis is great the 15 minutes after that where they just repeat themselves isn't so great. They could def do BO2/BO3. Id rather see that and have less time for analysis/talking.
Can we imagine? Yes. There used to be 28 games a split. Now they are down to 18. Riot just wants to try and make the same amount of money, while cutting their expenses in half basically
They might change it to Bo2 next year, but for now everything has already been in place for a while so they might as well keep it like that for one more split
It is sad that they decide to cap the rosters at all. Imgaine the beauty of a team with a carry top player and a tank top player. a hypercarry adc player and a utility adc player. RIOT claims to want more diversity and creative but by constraining the LCS Roster caps they constrain team creativity and strategy.
a hypercarry adc player and a utility adc player
You pretty much described Sneaky this past split (essentially carrying C9), and Summer S3/Spring S4 (Ashe/Zyra bot lane).
What I'm getting at, is that you want to allow for more players that fill specific niches. That type of thinking doesn't condone diversity, it actually pigeonholes a team into playing a certain type of team comp based on the roster they're fielding that week.
Why not just find better players that can actually play both defensive AND offensive strategies? Or, help mold the players you do have into getting better. Help teach your mid that tends to play supporting mids (Ori, Liss, etc), to play more aggressively ... For example, the exact thing that SKT did with EasyHoon.
I.E. Learn to expand your champion pool. You want to run Kennen top, but your top laner currently only plays tanks. Don't go out and pick up a Kennen-only Solo Queue star, because that just tells your opponent "Hey, we're playing Kennen today, please don't ban him".
Good changes all around. Well thought out, in my opinion.
So clg gets 2 new mid laners and then this rule change shows up about substituting players between days in the lcs. Coincidence or something more
It has nothing to do with the fact that CLG now have 2 midlaners. The LCS has to add this rule if they want to stay consistent with other regions, and of course, everyone will be looking at the SKT situation with easyhoon and faker and know that this is the right move by the LCS. It just happens that CLG decided to go the SKT route, obviously knowing that this rule would be implemented (pretty sure everyone expected this change to come).
It has a lot to do with the fact that CLG has 2 midlaners as well. There would be no reason for this rule otherwise honestly, and the wording of the article seems to imply it was a reaction to how the teams in the LCS have developed. I'm pretty sure it would have still happened eventually, but not as an immediate change mid-season.
CLG probably new about this rule change beforehand, as did the rest of the teams. Which is why there was a thread recently about cyanide being added to origin's roster to get up to three subs.
Ya wouldn't be surprised to see old player like OddOne being added to rosters for the sake of filling the bench
@Cryovix lol even tho your comment has 33 downs everyone still looks at it!
@Cripple Oracle now if only people wouldnt take so serious lol
Precisely, teams are always informed when any rule changes are being implemented. Riot only ever implements these rule changes to the public when LCS is about to begin, so people can be aware of any changes before the start of the games.
Riot didn't just pull this ruleset out of their ass yesterday. It's obvious that they've been in contact with the LCS teams about what they're changing for this split. CLG most likely has two midlaners because they knew this change was coming.
At least they didn't just get fined for having 2 midlaners. lol
This was the inevitable follow-up to the rule at MSI that allowed for one substitute for each team and substituting mid-series. It would be extremely poor form for them to have that rule at the international competition but not bring it in for their regular season play. They will obviously have the rule, or some variation of it, at worlds, so why would you expect them to inhibit NA/EU by not allowing them to prepare for the rule?
Of course, you could just assume conspiracy theory instead of realizing that CLG made an intelligent decision based on an obvious inevitability.
Looks like someone doesn't watch the LCK.
Looks like someone doesn't understand the difference between "LCS Rule Changes" and "LCK Rule Changes"
dude gnar is so cool to play
So how is subbing going to work with Fantasy LCS?
I see that Riot's trying to undo the restrictions that regions' LCS are primarily geared toward that region.
Why else would you let half of a region, who aren't residents of that region, suddenly declare as residents of that region so more non-residents can be imported?
http://fantasy.lolesports.com/share/join/league/812509/fdo41vpsa14QvUAFZBuC Draft w'll start as soon as it's full
http://fantasy.lolesports.com/share/join/league/812921/RWbbfWFzCvC3fkHylgHO drafting as soon as its full
how does this affect Fantasy LCS,, can you know choose your roster for every game?
I want to sub for LCS but Im only Plat stuck in elo hell gg