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Fnatic brings pride to Europe at MSI

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"We weren't really scared of SKT," says Bora "YellOwStaR" Kim. Very few people expected Fnatic to take SKTelecom T1 to five games in their Semifinal matchup at the Mid-Season Invitational. Among the faithful, though, were Fnatic's YellOwStaR and Fabian "Febiven" Diepstraten. Whereas many teams at the tournament played scared against the top team in Korea, the Europeans brought their aggressive play style directly to their competition.

An unforgettable series

After a loss in Game 1, it was time for Fnatic to make a change. But before they could head onto the Rift for the second time, they had to make sure they had the right mentality. "Even if we're losing, we try to make each other laugh or just be friends, you know? We look forward to the next game, even if we know we've lost." "I don't really mind if we lose a game, because I know we can win the next one," echoes Febiven. "We just have to keep our mental state good. We just have to go on to the next game." To get Fnatic on the right foot for Game 2, YellOwStaR nabbed himself support Annie in the hopes that it would allow Fnatic to fight early and often. "In the first game, I felt like my teammates were maybe engaging too slowly," he says. "I've always been really strong on engaging champions, so that's why I wanted to play something like Annie. I'm always the first to go in. If I see any opportunity, I can engage and they can just follow." It worked. Despite SKT putting up a good fight in the late game, Fnatic gave SKT their first loss at MSI. Finally, a team had figured out how to crack Sang-hyeok "Faker" Lee and company's armor. When Game 3 started, it looked like Fnatic had shaken the SKT mistique. Febiven solo killed Faker twice in lane, becoming one of the few players in the world to have ever done so. Febiven wasn't surprised, though. "The first time when we scrimmed SKT, I solo killed him. So, I knew I could do it... It felt great! Even though we lost the game, I didn't really care." While Fnatic couldn't transition the pair of kills into a win in Game 3, they kept up their positive mental attitude and won Game 4 in similar style to their Game 2 victory. Unfortunately for them, Game 5 wasn't even close. Febiven credits it to one thing: Faker's Cassiopeia. "The Cassiopeia pick just kinda screwed us over," he says. "I didn't have a response to it. We couldn't do anything against it. He just killed us… We made a huge mistake by not picking it in the second rotation." Regardless of the loss, Fnatic came out of the match holding their heads high. They proved that they could compete with the best players in the world.

Legacy

As Fnatic leaves Tallahassee for home, they're carrying with them the pride of their performance at MSI. As a player with very little professional experience, Febiven now knows just how good he and his team are. "I feel really confident, because I've played against the best mid laners out there. I can do well against anyone in Europe. For our team, it's really good too. We almost beat SKT! We can beat anyone in Europe." Says YellOwStar, "I think every one of us got a huge boost. We won't be afraid against anyone else because we've played against the best. "I feel a bit sad because I know we could have won this series," says YellOwStar. "But at the same time, I'm really happy about our performance. I told [my team] that our main goal would be Worlds. [MSI is] just an experience, and it's going to help us to grow up as a team." And really, that's all YellOwStar wanted for Fnatic from the Mid-Season Invitational. He wanted them to come together and take the next step to becoming the best team that they can be. "We always improve as a team," says Fnatic's support. "We play as five. If one day, I want to stop or have to stop, then I don't want them to fall off. That's why I always try to get everyone to improve themselves. I want to share my knowledge, as well, so we can be really good together. "There's going to be a bright future for us."

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83 Comments

Yordle Xayah62 votes

I'm really proud to be a FNATIC follower, and I can't wait to see them at Worlds. I'm sure they are going to be even better than MSI, and their growth in just 3 days was incredible. SKT played really well. There's no shame or sadness in me after that series. It was an awesome series!

Dan Braum19 votes

I wouldn't be able to agree with you more even if I try! :) GGWP Fnatic!

Fnatic vs Unicorns of Love Season 5 Worlds Finals incomin' boys! :D

Lv 100 Tyranitar6 votes

THAT.. WOULD BE... F.CKING INSANE!!!!

Charizard on Ice2 votes

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Charizard on Ice2 votes

Shit I am actually EUW and you are NA...

AFK Sam10 votes

Fnatic when themselves with respect. As an Asian, I know NA & EU has long time rivalry against each other. I dont think Fnatic should sink themselves down to TSM's level.

Call me a FNC fan, who cares they lose, they are so good

TSM Maverick7 votes

TSM fan here. I don't think there is any sinking involved. TSM wasn't disrespectful, they were honest in their opinions(and obviously wrong in them as well). As for fnatic though holy cow! All the respect in the world for them. They played out of their minds and were phenomenal. They deserved every bit of the credit they've gotten from this. They've definitely turned into my favorite eu team (previously an h2k fan) and I hope that they continue on to progress and develop at this insane rate. (Maybe a 2nd world title for fnatic in the making???? ) At any rate they can only be proud of themselves. GG FNC and all the best this upcoming split!

Dan Braum4 votes

I am always very happy to see intelligent and proud NA fans commenting anything under the articles (even criticism if it's sophisticated), and thank you for your praise to Fnatic! EU and NA should always cheer for each other against the titans of Korea and China, and hope that one day, one of the western teams can raise the Summoners' Cup again in a World Championship!

The Great Shmoop1 votes

completely agree with your statement here, i'm from NA but ever since i watched season 3 worlds i have been a fan of the EU scene more than NA, fnatic really impressed me and i loved the old roster alot (more than the new one for sure) because they were not only fantastic players but they are amazing people too, xpeke being my favorite i am now an origen fan, fnatic proved that EU is probably overall the strongest region, the reason i saw this even though they lost is because fnatic BARELY lost to the top KR team, and they barely managed to beat the other EU teams, meaning that each of the top 5 teams have very close to the same skill level, while other regions have super teams, EU has a massive number of very strong teams, so you can never count them out of anything

HernyóSama1 votes

Which article are you talking about, because I just couldn't find it. Would appreciate it if you could link it or something :)

Dan Braum1 votes

You want me to specifically choose an article where I read intelligent and sophisticated criticism about Fnatic from a NA fan?

Here you go: http://eune.lolesports.com/articles/msi-power-rankings

Read for example Masalar's comments! :)

Vega Hartmann2 votes

"TSM wasn't disrespectful"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjX2YNBsOnc

Bad news. It was.

T RexHasTinyArms2 votes

I'm super impressed by Fnatic and think their run was awesome. I'm curious to see how they do in the summer split. I'm really hoping they get better bc they might be a serious contender at worlds if they do. At the same time I worry they may get worse. They talk so much here about the key to their successful games being the laid back and friendly attitudes, and I want to say that part of why Rekkles left was because the team wasn't taking things serious enough/practicing hard enough (think I remember reading that). I'm interested to see if they practice super hard (which it seems like they do) and Rekkles can come in and absorb that friendly mentality and be more consistent in his games even when things go bad, or if he will be frustrated by that approach and want a more serious/professional attitude (and if so will that mess up chemistry and make them worse even though his mechanics are great)?

Kremall1 votes

Yes, Rekkles did indeed say something like that. But that was a total different team at that time. Cyanide got tired of the game, Soaz was always known to be stubborn regarding his playstyle and picks. Even xPeke looked kinda demotivated in interviews, saying things like "i don't know if i still play in 2015",etc. Meanwhile Yellowstar was still motivated, he even lost half his weight due to his diet ;-) The current team consists of rookies and Yellowstar. These guys practice 16 hours every day. You can even see them online after they get home from LCS-Games. Also the coach is someone new. Deilor is a former poker trainer. He knows, that winning the mental game is a win condition. What you said about the friendly mentality could be his handwriting.

T RexHasTinyArms1 votes

Yeah that's why I'm curious, I think it could go either way. Maybe the chemistry is way different and this is the kind of team Rekkles would have stayed w/ Fnatic for bc they have drive to improve and at the same time are friendly. So hopefully Rekkles picks up that attitude from them and play relaxed and just wreck. But if he's too different in chemistry and is all about the practice and loses that mentality they have going now it could disrupt the team even if he brings better mechanics.

Lil TommyWatkins29 votes

I'm a hardcore tsm fan, have been since the rain man back in the day. I'm super fucking proud of fnatic. Thank you for representing the west and honestly showing to me that they can become a serious competitor at worlds. Eu > na for now but we will back for worlds. :) super exciting season

CreDo VaLues4 votes

i dont like the line "eu>na" i would say na is still behind in there tactics game plays but mechanicly they are ok. If tsm doesnt change the way they play there is no way for tsm to win world or w/e

Mestune8 votes

Thing is, right now their mechanics aren't even okay. Fnatic probably is the best team in eu but sk, H2k, UOL and even some others are all contenders.

Currently TSM is by far the best team in NA and they don't have a single player better than the average at the international level. Most of them were clearly below average especially santorin imo, the guy had literally no impact.

Abyssphere3 votes

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Thing is, right now their mechanics aren't even okay. Fnatic probably is the best team in eu but sk, H2k, UOL and even some others are all contenders.

Currently TSM is by far the best team in NA and they don't have a single player better than the average at the international level. Most of them were clearly below average especially santorin imo, the guy had literally no impact.

I didn't understand Santorin at all during the tournament. I was quite impressed with him during the spring split and he did some really good stuff but he just never seemed to be doing anything during MSI. For every five times the enemy jungler ganked, he got in maybe one gank? And the only time he was spending a lot of time ganking was in a game I can't quite remember (possibly versus SKT?) where he continuously ganked what was proving to be an impossible to lock down bot lane.

Everyone on TSM has a role to play (Dyrus got caught out needlessly so often, Bjergsen didn't manage to influence anything, etc) but Santorin was the worst IMO. Did nothing for Dyrus, did nothing to take advantage of junglers camping Dyrus and generally seemed incapable of getting anyone ahead.

AFK Sam4 votes

Everything starts in lane. If you lose all your lanes, there is nothing jungler could possibly do.

For NA, their league just don't have enough intensity. for instance, EDG averagely got more than 1 kill per minute in most of their games, which is a proof for the level of competition they are used to. But we can't see this for NA teams

Benyec5 votes

The best thing after this tournament is that the NA twitch chat stops the extremely intense "EU can't get out of groups" nonsene with loads of EleGiggle-s and 4Head-s that was sometimes so frustrating i turned off chat because i felt bad.

About TSM i felt they were going there like they lost already, their play was non existent and I have no clue what happened. Going 1-4 was in the deck with the amount of skill represented at the tournament but losing their games as hard as DP vs SSW seemed so irreal and sad. :/

Kremall1 votes

Lately i'm always watching the stream on youtube. The viewercount isn't that high and in my opionion the chat is much more readable and enjoyable.

nin75 votes

Thinking in terms of EU><NA is ok...for jokes may be. But with 10 teams in each league it's currently more a matter of wich region has the top team in best shape at any given moment.

As for TSM performance at MSI, it reminds me of SK at IEM, very effective teams in season that get their playstyles figured out by world clash teams at an international event. At a point in which ADC were really key, SK was getting hard carried by Forgiven's agresion, and he just got banned out, at least to a level in which he was good but manageable. Now in a meta of tanks, TSM has adapted by sacrificing Dyrus to get advantages and counting on his hability to stay relevant/come back latter...Fnatic and AHQ thrive on the chance of getting an "easy" lane snowball (Huni getting ahead is really bad news) and both EDG and SKT wont let anibody come back, they target weacknesses all too good.

Now, SK kept faring ok in regular season but fell in playoffs. TSM should probably use summer to develop more versatile tactics in this meta...or hope for changes that go in their line.

Fnatic, in my oppinion is good news not just for EU but for LCS and lol in general, korean and/or chinese teams stomping rampant everibody would get old too quickly. This gives a bit of hope to see a Worlds tournament were no team has a kakewalk. It also means the top LCS teams can hope to compete with some pride.

Faleya7 votes

I think it's not "just" which regions top team is in the best shape at the moment of a tournament. while I actually rated TSM higher than FNC before MSI, I think the main advantage FNC has over TSM is that they are the "best among equals" in Europe, where H2k, UoL and others can really play on the same level as FNC on any given day (but dont do it quite as regularly as FNC does). While TSM is just heads and shoulders above everyone else in NA. (okay, C9incarnated & Team Liquid MIGHT become serious competition) You just dont learn&improve if no one exploits your mistakes. Thats why TSM was just so flabbergasted that people actually managed to snowball off their negligence towards Dyrus. No one in NA had managed to do that and they just werent ready to get challenged like that.

Abyssphere3 votes

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I think it's not "just" which regions top team is in the best shape at the moment of a tournament. while I actually rated TSM higher than FNC before MSI, I think the main advantage FNC has over TSM is that they are the "best among equals" in Europe, where H2k, UoL and others can really play on the same level as FNC on any given day (but dont do it quite as regularly as FNC does). While TSM is just heads and shoulders above everyone else in NA. (okay, C9incarnated & Team Liquid MIGHT become serious competition) You just dont learn&improve if no one exploits your mistakes. Thats why TSM was just so flabbergasted that people actually managed to snowball off their negligence towards Dyrus. No one in NA had managed to do that and they just werent ready to get challenged like that.

Agreed. EU is a much more competitive region - whether that's because there are more good teams or because there's no team as strong as TSM, I don't know. Next split is going to be impossible to predict for example - Fnatic may have impressed here but there's some serious competition when they go back to the EU LCS even so. UOL are only getting better, H2K are the same, SK may have done badly in the playoffs but they were #1 in the split for a reason and we have Origen coming in too. The winner of the summer split is basically impossible to call and everyone has to try much harder as a result. Any one of the teams I mentioned could challenge for #1 but they could equally end up at the bottom of the top 5, so there's really no room for complacency.

NA isn't a bad region by any means but I don't think anyone can argue that TSM winning spring was a foregone conclusion. Summer has some interesting things in the mix, particularly the changed C9 line-up, but I'd still expect a TSM win unless they go into meltdown mode following the MSI performance.

Kremall1 votes

If the rumor is true that SK replaced Forgiven with CandyPanda, then i don't think SK will be a contender for the title...

TehSillyKitteh21 votes

I love FNC, and I'm so impressed by their play today. But if they replace steeelback with rekkles for Worlds I will be truly disappointed... Rekkles is a great ADC, maybe as an individual better than steeel, but the current team dynamic is so good. And putting in a drama queen like rekkles will ruin that.

Benyec4 votes

What i hope for is that rejoining his previous team will heal his drama queen issues and i don't think he will ruin the team dynamics as he fit in the old Fnatic perfectly.

Alfredjonn4 votes

I agree with you Tnuc3. Why change a world-stage-performing team? In my opinion it idiotic to pick players just for the individual skills, that might even throw off the team dynamics... Go FNC (with Steelback)!

Ghrian2 votes

Steeelback stays in the team as a sub IIRC. So if Rekkles doesn't have a good showing in the season, I'm pretty sure Steeelback will comeback.

Smart Kitty4 votes

Yeah, but still if Rekkles plays with the team in the season and does poorly, that's losing time they could've used to improve Steelback's play. I know Rekkles is better at the moment, but I think Steelback has more potential and would be a better choice for FNC in the long run. It'd really stink if rekkles played poorly and they tried to use Steelback worlds and end up out of sync.

Kremall1 votes

Dailydot.com is spreading rumors that Steeelback is going to be tested by Gambit as a replacement for Pinoy.

Vega Hartmann1 votes

If the old adc will be reckless, Steel will be back. No puns intended. Trust me

Klayar2 votes

Rekkles is better than Steelback in every way I think. Is gonna have to play the same style than him but better, because if not, the teamplay is not gonna be the same, and that is not good at all.

Kremall1 votes

At least Rekkles is an adc that Yellowstar can leave alone for a while without worrying about him. Fnatics current style doesn't heavily rely on the adc doing well, Steeelback primary task is to be ready for cleanup services and to provide some Utility when he is on Sivir / Urgot. Fnatic is always been called to be a one-dimensional team. I think that is due to Steeelbacks current ability. Other strategies rely more on him performing well. On paper Rekkles would bring that to the team.

Ghrian9 votes

Moral of the story: Blue side always wins.

RITO NURF BLU SYDE PLZ.

Aliphati9 votes

In the semifinals against SKT, I saw Fnatic channeling most of the (currently) best teams in EU. I saw elements of SK's, H2K's, UOL's and Gambit's strategies & tactics in what Fnatic used to get SKT on their back foot. It was almost like Fnatic had somehow managed to make it "a whole region facing off against one team". Too bad, they couldn't channel a UOL-style miracle in game 5!!

I don't think any of the analysts mentioned this, but if you ask me, FNC lost the series in game 3. They had SKT on their back foot, but couldn't close it out, because of a few misplays, which allowed SKT to come back. This, in turn, allowed SKT to find the little cogs in their dominance-mashine that needed to be tweeked by game 5... Bengi's Nunu and Faker's Casiopeia. I think, Fnatic would have found a way to deal with one of these picks, but not both. So, if Fnatic had won game 3, it's likely, they could have taken down SKT in game 4. Apparently, 4 games is what it takes, for a team to figure out how to deal with what the "upsetting rivals" have manged to cook up... just like in the eu final (UOL vs FNC) and a couple of other matches, that I can't name without a lot of searching in the history of LoL e-sports.

Where this na vs eu thing is concerned, I say: drop it! It's time to make it about west vs east, because we're getting another all eastern final....AGAIN! In 2014 at worlds, na earned a lot of respect in eu and I think, now at MSI eu earned their share of respect in na. So let's shake hands and change that EAST>>west thing!!

Fnatic has shown us, that even Korea isn't that invincible. We need to stop looking for weak competition, we think, we can beat. We need to rise to the challenge and start getting confident about going up against the best.

W1sam1 votes

I think if Febiven picked Xerath instead of Zed FNC had won against SKT in only four games. Febiven only tried to show his individual skill with Zed to humiliate Faker. But his Xerath is INSANE. 44 KDA. And it fits in their team comp. And its a good pick after a few minutes against Azir.

I hope that this year the West have a good chance to beat the Asians. #TrustInFNC The EU LCS is so competitive the next split. The experience FMC gained will help them much. So I still think FNC will win the Summer Split. But from the 2nd to 7/8/9th place you can't predict. Stop with NA vs EU. It's time for LCS vs LCK/LPL/LMS. The thing that makes EU so good is the try hard and hard working. And they try to improve from everything.

LVitaSigma8 votes

It definitely was one of the best Bo5 matches I have ever seen. Shame Fnatic did't win though, but they were close.

Raccoon attack8 votes

I'll no longer blame people who say EU>NA... because it's true right now

CreDo VaLues6 votes

FNC are the best, gj guys i am so proud about ur new line up!

TheBeastie4 votes

Kor,TW, EU, CH>>>>NA

Buzanami4 votes

Fnatic played a great series. Nuff said lol. Personally I would like to see Liquid, Impulse and C9 make it to worlds. If TSM is gonna bring a laspe mindset into competitions like this then that spot needs to go to a team that wants it more. Being ahead of the curve in NA doesn't mean you're ahead of the world. That's not to say I hate TSM. They finally found some kind of harmony and that really helped them win spring but w/the shitty performance at this event I really question how a team like this beat C9 in the finals. Still though, good job west!

Benyec4 votes

I mean, Febiven goes toe to toe with Faker, Bjergsen goes toe to toe with everyone at one of the biggest slumps in TSM's history.

Alex Ich single handedly carries an NA team to LCS which he is not even part of, and then there is Nukeduck, Incarnation, Froggen, xPeke, PowerOfEvil and the others... EU midlaners have impressed me a lot this year.

PoisonedAir4 votes

Febiven called Faker "that guy" and then solo killed him twice. <3

RedHat213 votes

These games were the best ones I have ever seen. I feel like Fnc will become even better if they get Rekkles because in game 5 and others too they were focused so much at Steeelback that they forgot other lanes which made them lose. Even if they stay like this Fnc is the best western team for now and they will be huge contenders at Worlds

Ixnay6 votes

I honestly belive if the bring in Rekkles it will break the synergy they have now. Or not, but Steeelback really fits in really well and needs less resources than Rekkles so that Febiven and Huni can shine while he cleans up.

Sycksh1t3 votes

It was a pretty sad day for NA with TSM performing so poorly. Im a c9 fan but I was rooting for TSM.

I have to say Thank You to Fnatic and EU. For giving the west a little hope for worlds. If both teams had done poorly, I don't know about the rest of you, but I would've been pretty gloom and doom till worlds this year. I knew fnatic was good, I even thought this new team might be better then the old ever was, its really starting too look that way.

Kremall2 votes

Well, the old Fnatics biggest succes was the season 1 title(Soaz and Yellowstar were 2nd with aAa) and the 3rd place in season 3, so the new lineup really has to perform good to surpass the success of the old lineup ;-)

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