Congrats TSM

E Man forever·8/11/2019, 12:59:15 AM·10 votes·8,656 views

Wow, umm. WOW! (Disclaimer this is just a flaming of TSM for us to laugh at, this is not to cheapen CG's victory over them as they exceeded everyone's expectations. Huni looked like he returned to 2016 form. Also Cody Sun you were a beast, good luck on your revenge tour.)

I was expecting either a blowout by TSM and at worst a close 5 game series. But to role over and lose in 4 in humiliating fashion.

You guys were coming into the playoffs saying that you were gonna get revenge, that the playoff buff activated, that Clutch didn't have a chance. Impeccable!

How did you choke that badly against the most inconsistent team in the League.

We have 2 junglers that both have LCS experience this season that each bring different strengths to the table. Screw that lets bring in the rookie jungler put him on tanks and chuck him into the fire.

Aside from Cody Sun playing out of his mind. whose fault is it to keep on giving Huni Rumble or executing the little things like making sure a kill is secured in a gank or knowing better than to fight in choke points against Rumble and Quiyana. Speaking of Cody Sun, much more could have been done to shut him down. How about not spoon-feeding him a triple kill around a lost dragon fight.

Bjergsen felt near invisible even with a well farmed Corki, what about the Twisted Fate and the map pressure a player of his caliber could create with him.

Yes Sivir and Kai'sa are slippery champions, but, at least try camping him one game like you tried to do to Huni and coordinate a 4 man dive bot.

It also helps if you know adapt. It was especially clear when it came to the draft and in execution. Their comps had much more aoe and had more defined windows of victory.

Broken Blade was your only hope to force the silver scrapes and little was done to either help his lane or engage in teamfights.

You know what Clutch have that you didn't develop? An identity. They have one direction and that full throttle forwards, retreat is not in their vocabulary and look to win lane and dominate scrappy teamfights. Meanwhile, you guys all split long you guys had no direction as to how you would win games. I'm fine with a jungle tandem, C9 for example. But, settle on a style that can be adapted to face various teams. It's like 2018 Spring all over again as you usually had the early lead then just...sit on it not know whether to continue looking to pick off enemies or bleed them out. It's either one or the other, sure there is an in-between but you have to commit to that balance.

Even this series when you had decent early leads and got your Vayne some early kills. There was a toss up over whether to dance around the Sivir and push where she is not or just continue making aggressive engages as the assassin was not fed yet. Instead it was a mix of both allowing Cody Sun to sit with a Kench to babysit his Sivir while he knocked down wave after wave.

I want you guys to ponder this loss real well before the gauntlet. I thought you were a guaranteed slot for worlds at the end of Spring. You've disappointed me TSM.

Now where are my C9 fans at. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

26 Comments

FlashNeko8/11/2019, 3:17:05 AM3 votes

I know I'm the first one to generally look at TSM in the harshest light possible but MAN, is it just me or did it feel like they didn't even want to be there? Like they had mentally checked out before the match even started.

GeminiRune8/11/2019, 3:29:41 AM2 votes

Them losing made tomorrow really matter to CLG and Optic. It is now for a gauntlet spot at the least. No technicalities. Win or season's over.

That actually feels tense to me!

ihateyouallmuted8/11/2019, 3:45:49 AM2 votes

I don't even know what to say. Do I beat this dead horse?

Jennifer4208/11/2019, 2:29:42 PM1 votes

because of time reasons i wasnt able to watch much na lcs the last... well 2 years. but what i did realize this year is that NOT ONCE did anyone mention tsm.

guess now i know why. im just a bit sad for zven, he was my favorite adc player in the eu lcs. i guess the na curse hit again :/

giannishannibal8/11/2019, 2:20:43 AM1 votes

For some reason i think that -as an EU watching NA teams- that C9 is the strongest team. With strongest is that they survive and pull their weights and win the crucial games. The proof is their presense in Worlds each year regardless of highs and lows in regular season . Aslo is this 2 or 3 seasons straght that in Worlds, C9 consistenly play the 2nd week with 3 games in a row make it out of the group stage strong and convincing. After in the knockout stage they play decent and represent the NA very well ( at least in my eyes). In the end they give NA more results and face in international stage and thats for me C9 is the strongest NA team- its not important how many times they fall, they will always stand up and fight ( plus I find sneaky adc performance more stable than any other adc in NA).

On the other hand, TSM and other teams with World stage experience they choke in big matches or important matches and fail at the last leg of the tournaments/Worlds etc

BigBellBrute8/12/2019, 4:37:08 PM1 votes

Well some of you know my old joke on other boards.

Rule 1. It's the support's fault Rule 2. The Jungler is just another support

But TSM lives it.

SobeDragon8/11/2019, 5:10:03 AM1 votes

I don't know what just happened in the last two weeks, but ... wow. Just. Wow.

III BAKURYU III 8/11/2019, 5:13:41 AM1 votes

Not really sure why TSM benched Grig when he and TSM were 4-0 with him and even improved from his 2018 performance.

TSM legit went full 100 Thieves when they benched Akaadian and Grig similar to 100 Thieves after an impressive Finals(Meteos) and weeks before Worlds 2018(Codysun).

Also, I've been saying this for 3+years now, "Bjergsen plays too damn passive" especially in today's league/meta where the aggressive players/plays gets the WINS.
He's a better version of Froggen.......he farms well, he needs every blue, it's a meme "SOLOMID" with the years of constant camping for such, plays passive each game.... and for what? To barely win games around the 40 min mark each split?

People can say all they want about Bjergsen and YES he's a GREAT player! but let's stop acting like you can't replace him. Caps left Fnatic for G2 and Fnatic literally found a replacement just like that and NA could honestly just find another EU mid.

Cloud 9( Hai - Jensen - Nisqy) it is possible to actually MOVE ON.

Bjergsen has been the constant variable on TSM but never gets the blame....

Reginald MonkeyKing Go to Europe and scout mid laners..... don't want to spend $ on an EU Challenger player that's fine! You can legit get a Gold EU player that will match the skill of the NA players.