From EU to NA: The Amazing Jungler

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Amazing might just have been the best jungler to grace the European LCS last season. While the Copenhagen Wolves came in 6th place with a record of 13-15, Amazing lit up the highlight reel for Europe play after play. This split, he has made the jump across the ocean to North America to play for the dynasty of TSM, leading many to think TSM would rise to a new level of dominance. However, since then, TSM have only managed to go 3-3, losing to Dignitas, CLG, and Cloud 9. What is it about Amazing that makes him so strong a jungler, how is he affecting the playstyle of TSM, and what should we expect to see as he grows more and more comfortable?

The Amazing Playmaker

Amazing dominated in Europe, with his play earning 2 consecutive MVP prizes and sweeping accolades. It would be unfair to boil his play down to one champion, but the champion he swiftly became noted for was Lee Sin, on whom he went 7-3 with a 7.57 KDA, pulling off amazing kick after amazing pick. But looking at his stats, we can see what Amazing was focused on.

There are many ways of carrying from the jungle. Some players win by farming, others win by counter-jungling, and still others win by ganking. Amazing distinguished himself by making plays and getting kills, with the most kills per game of any European jungler (2.96). Overall, he didn’t farm much, nor did he get that much gold. But when his team did win, it was largely due to his efforts, and he earned a larger percentage of his team’s gold in wins than any other jungler in Europe. On the other hand, when his team lost, his kill involvement did not suffer, and he was among the top junglers in Europe in kills, deaths, and assists.

A New General

Amazing stepped into big shoes when he replaced TheOddOne, the long-time jungler for TSM. He is certainly talented enough to replace TheOddOne - nobody would dispute that - but he has a much different play style, one we can again see from looking at Season 3 stats.

In TheOddOne’s wins, he was much more focused on snowballing his team. He got a lot of assists, and in TSM’s wins, he actually did not pick up a number of kills, giving up his life on many occasions to net his carries kills. The change in junglers caused large shift in the playstyle of both TSM and Amazing. Bjergsen has been playing more support-focused mids recently, with 2 games on Lulu and 1 game on Soraka. On the other hand, he has also returned to his roots, with two games on Syndra.

The Best of Both Worlds

Farm Minions and Champions Amazing is still the kill-amassing jungler he has always been. He is tied with Meteos for first place in kills/game (2.83), and tied at #1 with Snoopeh for kills/win (5.00). However, unlike last season, where he farmed minimally, TSM Amazing is second only to Meteos in total CS.

However, there are still strong European influences to his playstyle. European junglers tend to spend more time killing minions, because they will hold mid to allow their mid laner to gank more consistently. This is not strictly a European strategy (Meteos shows similar tendencies at times), but it is certainly a tendency more common in Europe. Amazing does not disappoint, tying Meteos for the highest minion count, and actually surpassing him in minion count in TSM’s wins.

The Amazing Spiderman

If there was a champion Amazing struggled on last season, it was Elise. He only went 1-5 with a 2.56 KDA. This season, however, on TSM, Elise is becoming a regular - and dominant - pick for him, with two wins and an 11-2-25 showing. And when he has played Elise, it has not been with the Magic Penetration build of old, but the support-oriented, CDR-heavy build popularized by Meteos.

European Champion Pool

The biggest difference between Amazing and other North American junglers - and especially TheOddOne - is his champion pool. TheOddOne preferred support-heavy junglers, true to his style. Amazing, on the other hand, has a champion pool that is distinctly European.

His signature champion - Lee Sin - was played 44 times in the EU LCS last split, while only being played 21 times in the NA LCS. Moreover, 10 (nearly half!) of those NA Lee Sin games (and all 9 NA LCS Lee Sin wins!) came from Dexter and Meteos. Hopefully, Amazing will port one of the strongest junglers over to NA, so that NA junglers can have more experience against one of the most consistently internationally dominant junglers!

Unfortunately, Amazing has suffered from one major weakness: a small champion pool. He really only plays the power 4 junglers: Lee Sin, Kha’Zix, Elise, Evelynn. Teams have targeted bans at him, forcing him to play on Xin Zhao and Volibear, champions who ended up not working well for him, with a combined 2-6-5 in two losses, to Cloud 9 and Dignitas.

Against Dignitas, he pulled out Volibear, a jungle pick that was common in Season 3, and almost entirely in Europe. While it did not work well, it speaks to the new mindset of TSM. They are not concerned with sticking to a North American style of play; they are committed to improving and winning, and Amazing is at the forefront of their changing and evolving style.

Mattias "Gentleman Gustaf" Lehman is a League of Legends math-crafter turned esports journalist who spends his spare time staring at mountains of League of Legends data. Follow him @GentlemanGustaf on Twitter.

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66 Comments

Sojurro46 votes

oddone is still better.

Slashiroth1 votes

Thats why he got replaced by amazing.

Ox Nahilys22 votes

Amazing is totally overrated. He has insane mechanics but I think players like him who spend all their time killing people should not be called a jungler. His vision control is really, really weak & totally no objectives control. That's sad for a "top jungler" these kind of stats MUST be considered to rank players. Each role do not speak ONLY with the KDA

43702749_DEL24 votes

Still better than TheOddOne

Glørÿ5 votes

The reason TSM are losing is because of amazing is playing for himself unlike oddone who supported bjerg. bjerg is doing terribly this season because he doesn't have oddone to help support him while amazing is taking all the kills,etc Oddone would never be banned out because he plays :Elise,Eve,Panth,Wu,Vi, and many more which is way better than amazing's champ pool

Jehosephat7 votes

Do you realize that in Europe berg was on the same team as amazing and he was considered on of the powerhouse mid laners? It's not only amazing fault. TSM is struggling because they swapped all of the important synergizing players the only member of TSM that wasn't directed in lane was dyrus. You can't just say that amazing is a selfish jungle and plays for himself because TSM just a hasn't had the chance to become a well oiled machine yet.

DFearon3 votes

I disagree, the reason TSM is losing is because Bjergsen isn't playing carry mid champions TSM last season relied imo on Dyrus and Bjerg carrying or snowballing from the start of the game. Turtle always seems to be in the wrong position and he is always having to be bailed out and Gleeb isn't as good at being there at the right time as Xspecial is (yet).

JSJ222 votes

OddOne was a legend but I feel like in team fights he often all in'd and just focused on landing as much damage and/or cc before he died hoping he team would clean up. And that mostly worked, but not so much against C9 and CLG. If OddOne is coaching I hope they find a good mix of Amazing trying to initiate while trying to stay alive. (OddOne fan 1st pro I've known about and was my fav until Bjerg)

DeraLiK1 votes

i totally agree with ALL that you just said!!!! he is a good jungler, AMAZING mechanics, but the vision control it is not there, "YET", THEODDONE IS teaching him, so he might get there!! :)

Stormclaws9 votes

It's funny how people are still saying xpecial & oddone are better. Guys TSM got TWO new players they need to find a new playstyle for THEMSELVES and lets be real even with oddone or xpecial wouldnt have got a chance at the moment

twerkhorse7 votes

I don't agree with the way this article was written. It seems as though Gentleman Gustav is heavily biased toward the European style of play. He writes, "Hopefully, Amazing will port one of the strongest junglers over to NA, so that NA junglers can have more experience against one of the most consistently internationally dominant junglers!" This is an absurd statement, as Lee Sin has been played often enough in the NALCS since season 1. It doesn't need some European newbie to introduce a champion the NA scene is already well-versed in playing and playing against over several seasons. This is far from ground-breaking. Likewise, the author also writes, " They are not concerned with sticking to a North American style of play; they are committed to improving and winning," as if somehow indicating that the NA style of play is not conducive to improving. Seriously, stop writing.

RiotSkarnye West6 votes

Lee Sin was played half as much in NA as in EU, and half of that play was Dexter and Meteos. The data doesn't lie.

twerkhorse2 votes

Crumbz and Meteos (Crumbz even moreso) have been playing Lee Sin in the NALCS long before Dexter even arrived, not to mention junglers of LCS past like Xmithie and NK Inc. I hardly think Amazing is what it takes to finally "port" Lee across the Atlantic. This observation is useless at best and just seems insulting to the NA LCS at worst. So your much lauded data shows a higher rate of play in the EULCS. What you can't extrapolate from those numbers is that the NA scene was somehow just waiting for someone to bring it here. He's just one more guy who happens to play it, and gets easily banned out when it's taken.

NeonKnight45 votes

I can't say that I'm as knowledgeable about this topic, but I think you're missing the point. Gustaf isn't saying that Lee Sin hasn't been played before in NA. He's pointing out that, as compared to EU, NA junglers do not play Lee as much, using the facts that he has been played last split half as much in NA as in EU and that half of the times he was played in NA was two people to show that he isn't as popular of a pick in NA. Also, NA being "committed to improving and winning" by expanding their gameplay to include more EU based tactics doesn't mean that NA play isn't also conductive to winning. It shows that if NA players want to improve they have to learn different ways to play. Neither style is "not conducive to improving." It's all based on where the style came from. EU can learn just as much from NA players as NA can learn from EU. So before you start bashing someone's article about " the way this article was written," take a minute to think maybe the way you're interpreting it is wrong instead of the way it was written.

Jehosephat4 votes

NA is consistently under preforming on the international stage.... maybe gentleman gustav has a point.

Godkillah7 votes

this article is poor timing since amazing is playing like ass and can obviously be banned out.

RiotSkarnye West16 votes

"Unfortunately, Amazing has suffered from one major weakness: a small champion pool. He really only plays the power 4 junglers: Lee Sin, Kha’Zix, Elise, Evelynn. Teams have targeted bans at him, forcing him to play on Xin Zhao and Volibear, champions who ended up not working well for him, with a combined 2-6-5 in two losses, to Cloud 9 and Dignitas."

As noted :p

Glørÿ6 votes

I can't believe Amazing is stupid enough on reddit said that he is really good on 4 junglers only and C9 must've read it and it screwed over TSM

SSJ Larkhart1 votes

lol mate, you must be out of your mind if you think that's the reason, believe me when I say, pro teams don't make research out of Reddit treads when it comes to investigate enemy team players, they check their pro matches history, had he not pointed it out on Reddit, any team would have known, specially C9 since they have LemonNation and his sort of Deathnote. sorry for bad english.

warpedmind5 votes

sure his performance this split was not really "amazing" yet, but we should wait and see how he develops. much new shit this split in the NA LCS for everyone

Menbung3 votes

I'm not writing him off i just hate how a lot of my fellow TSM fans are like OMG GLLEB AND AMAZING ARE SO GREAT!

they haven't shown much.

i feel like i will wait till the next super week to decide on how Gleeb and Amazing are doing.

DaBllang5 votes

Im a long time TSM fan i i honestly have no idea why they got rid of Xpecial. I can understand why they wanted some "fresh blood" in the jungle, but Gleeb is just so bad.

kon135 votes

Well i recall a game that TSM won which the whole game was pretty much Gleeb saving WildTurtle voer and over. Gleeb is a bit weak in lane phase as even Doublelift said but he is strong in mid game rotations/shotcalling and peeling in team fights. One more reason TSM made this change was to improve their rotations which was clearly their weak point and even CLG looked better than them when not tilting hard like the last game of semifinals. Their lanes were already very strong and that wasn't getting them anywhere in the international scene

Bungkai4 votes

Gleebs midgame is strong? Holy shit standards have fallen.

Stormclaws2 votes

so the biggest thing was the communication on the bot lane this was the major reason why he was ''kicked'' wildturtle and xpecial looked good together in the games but we need to look at the background and that is something we cant do because we arent in the team and btw gleeb was one of the major factors why tsm even won 3 games i mean he saved turtles ass many times!

Pinker 102 votes

Sounds like they got rid of the wrong bot laner then. Getting caught the fuck out repeatedly at a pro level means u aint ready, even if u have 3 accs in challenger.

space piggy1 votes

GLEEB IS NOT BAD ITS AMAZING WHO SUCKS LIKE TRASH

Winters Style4 votes

I wish TheOddOne was still TSM's jungler. TheOddOne > Amazing.

Mundbjerg83 votes

His Nocturne is pretty good too. Don't know why it isn't mentioned in his championpool!

RiotSkarnye West4 votes

mostly because Feral Flare has fallen off hard.

host1Le3 votes

Amazing is garbage. He misses point blank q's on his "best champion" lee sin. He consistently has a kda at or under 1... between him and gleeb, tsm wont make it to worlds this year

space piggy1 votes

Gleeb is fine, amazing is the only one thats trash.

Menbung2 votes

When he lives up to his name, I will believe it.

That being said I still root for TSM.

DaBllang4 votes

If you saw him last split, you would know that he most certanly did. He had back-to-back weekly MWP and an 80% killparticipation. He might not synergize as well with TSM atm, but when he starts to do so the team will get a lot better (and when they get rid of gleeb, he almost made me lose a fantasy match)

Jehosephat1 votes

Glee can't do anything great when turtle is constantly doing stupid sit and getting caught out minute-ly

zozotheo2 votes

TSM plays really bad, i think that they cant find excuse in their rooster changes, i mean look at dig, they changed 2 players and they are to now best team in NA.

Squigglykins2 votes

Because the solo lanes were Coast's. Switching from a support-jungle style and a strong botlane to a carry jungle and a "meh" support creates a few synergy problems. Those problems don't matter as much when the replaced players are solo laners. But yeah, I agree, TSM probably shouldn't have thrown in these roster changes with only 2-3 weeks to synergize.

Soul Prism2 votes

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Conquering Life2 votes

Amazing stomped EU, Until he came to NA to face real competition lol.

DarkWariorSK1 votes

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Mojo Jojo 21 votes

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PromQueenGeorge1 votes

i main jungle LeeSin Zac JarvanIV Pantheon XinZhao

Col Scheisskopf1 votes

He kinda farted in Fantasy LCS week 2. :/

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