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UOL had a great showing and C9 should be proud of beating them. The questions about them may seem disrespectful but they do raise some good points. Unorthodox picks can only get you so far and Cloud9 were the only team without a roster change recently. I have a feeling both teams will be fine though and they'll be around for time to come (Cloud9 for sure).
TSM and ALL have nothing to feel bad about. They came in with roster changes and some synergy problems. Luckily this tournament didn't really mean much in the long run, and it's a blessing in disguise. It'll motive both teams to try and hang on to their titles and look back on this and laugh.
All in all a good tournament and my hat is off to UOL and C9. Mainly for UOL as N ONE gave them much thought. TSM. ALL. Use this and learn and see you both in the Spring Split Grand Finals. C9 and UOL will be waiting for you;)
mhm. cheese can only get you so far. once its already seen, you really have no other tricks up your sleeve. but, i commend them for pulling off cheese and winning like that.
The last time to come into the LCS riding on 'unorthodox picks' and little else was Velocity... we all remember how that went. I really like UoL, so I hope they've got more than just the unorthodox but we'll see.
The last question is so disrespectful to Cloud9 in my opinion. After years of dominance they can't give C9 their moment can they....
I think it's a bit of both tho, C9 never has team changes so they probably have the most synergy, especially here
I'm a big C9 fan but looking at it objectively, which C9 themselves is doing I'm sure, this tournament doesn't necessarily mean much. Sneaky himself in an interview said that you can't really tell much from this tournament since there is so much happening in the off season with teams (roster swaps, training schedules, etc) and the Rift. There's also a lot of time before the new season starts so who knows what the real strengths of the teams are. What this does do is provide the teams with motivation and highlights areas to improve. For C9, I feel it shows most of all that their early practice (started before other teams) and dedication was well placed. So I agree with the author to a large extent, though some of his stuff was just thrown in or worded that way to be entertaining and start debate. If they keep it up in the off season, they'll be a force to deal with this spring! C9 2015 World Champions, I feel it coming!
Sometimes these questions have to be asked. It is a valid point to investigate, and I'm sure C9's analyst asked himself the same question. Was this his team doing well, or was it just the other teams not doing that great?
It's not so much disrespect as objectivity.
balls - decreased in performance a bit, just some positiong errors like the casters said. meteos - consistant as always imo, legendary lee sin kick though. hai - improved if you take in account that his champ pool was attack heavily but still room for improvement i think. sneaky - just wow :O he was already consistant and now he adds amazing plays on it aswell lemanation - his thresh really impressed me and i think he improved playstylish from what ive seen at worlds, and his brain is still here too. overall i think cloud 9 has gone up in level in comparsion with world and i think they will take spring split again.
sometimes i feel like hai have no champ pool
I like how this article pointed out that Sneaky is a very underrated ADC. Though this author is about 4 months late with his claims, Sneaky has been getting praise since the end of the summer split for his step up play to help C9 out of their slump to make it to playoffs and barely lose the split to TSM. He hit the top of the ladder and kept it for several months, Sneaky has been the anchor for C9 for almost a half year now, always doing good poke and cleaning up at the end of team fights, that Penta Kill to win IEM San Jose was just the cherry on top to his great play for the last half year. One thing I have to disagree with this article is that Balls has not been super star status for a while now in the scene. He has been struggling, bottom line. I saw a lot of missed Qs with his Lissandra at IEM and besides one play his Gnar performance was not good. Also at worlds I think the Koreans pinned him as the least adept player and punished him a lot for his mistakes. I don't think at all that Balls is a mechanically bad player, but I think he is the member of the team that is having the hardest time adapting to patch changes. I personally think if the coaching staff gives him a little extra help and advice he could get back to the very very consistent top laner that he was in season 3. If he can get the help needed to mentally get back into form, then hell, I am going to say it, C9 has a realistic chance at winning worlds because they are the best North American team.
I know some people are going to boo me and start chanting TSM, well let me just remind you. Dyrus - American Santorin-Denmark Bjergsen-Denmark Lustboy-Korea Wildturtle-Canada
They are an international team, and a far second best international team behind SHRC, yeah.
how "americans" talk about foreigners, dont want to pop your bubble but at some point everyone in your country was european :O
so as long as they play and live in USA, mexico or canada they can represent the NA region. end of line.
Mexico is not considered NA in League. They're LAN... So stop calling them NA
yep, sorry, only USA and canada are members of the NA region, but doenst change the meaning of my comment
Yup typo on american, my bad. My point was 2/5 of the five are from NA, majority of the team is from different regions, C9's members are all born in NA, so I consider them the best NA team. Really, bring up the fact that we are all immigrated from europe fact?! Fine, we all came from Pangaea technically, soo blahH!
Last time I checked Canada was a part of NA.
Right? Thank you!
Complaining that an NA team isn't an NA team because it has players from other regions is ridiculous. It's like saying that the Yankees or the Mets aren't New York teams or don't represent New York because they have players from other states.
There really is something wrong with TSM's roster, this was not the TSM we saw at worlds. So far Santorin really wasn't an upgrade from Amazing at all, and obviously Bjergsen underperformed. The calls they made were questionable. Hopefully they'll fix these issues once the season starts.
they just disrespected UOL. and UOL overperformed lol.
I think that Santorin was a raw talent like Gleeb but just has more potential due to Gleeb's now public mental health issues. It will just take some time to build that synergy between jungle and every lane even thought everyone said going into IEM TSM looked very good in scrims. We can only wait and see if Bjerg was just rusty and underperformed or if this is a real problem with Santorin.
Cloud 9 was just being Cloud 9 and everyone else underperformed. Except UoL.
C9 vs ALL was a very close matchup and ALL is still learning to work with rekkles who is a totally different adc to tabzz. But Cloud 9 did perform amazing and I was sad to see Froggen underperfom to his usual level of play. Also Shook didn't add anything the whole series. I believe it were rekkles and wickd making it the close match that it was. Cloud 9 did deserve the win I have to admit, but I doubt they can still beat Alliance when they have had some time in the LCS to practice their team synergy. I am an Alliance fan so my opinion might be biased.
UoL tried too hard I think to be innovative in each game. Cloud 9 was definitely the better team this weekend. I feel like some of those matches would have been closer if UoL had relied more on the amazing mechanical abilities that Vizi/PoE had instead of wonky matchups. Sometimes it's unpredictable to not pick Lux mid and Poppy top and rather go with dominant comfort picks.
Sneaky/Meteos came through in every match. Lemon/Balls/Hai had pretty bad games against Alliance though. Lemon was out of position a bunch, Balls messed up his initiations and Hai was trying to make 1v5's work. They all stepped it up against UoL though, so maybe just rust maybe just Alliance being really good.
Also, UoL isn't only cheese. Winning lanes against Bjerg/Alex Ich takes more than that.
every video is the same ?!?!