InSec & Zero Acquired by China's Royal Club

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Thomas Watts and Michael "Chexx" Kiefer also contributed to this article.

Today, Star Horn Royal Club announced that they will be welcoming Yoon "Zero" Kyung-sup and Choi "InSec" In-seok to their team. This is a big move for the Chinese scene, as LPL teams have frequently received criticism for their jungle performances at international events. Additionally, Chinese fans and players have been noted for their national pride. So while teams in the west have welcomed players from other countries, this is the first instance of Korean players starting on a Chinese League of Legends team.

For the World Championship-contending Chinese team, which has been in flux since the retirement of Whitezz and Tabe at the end of Season 3, this is a radical step. Royal Club has in recent weeks been experimenting heavily with its roster, going so far as to briefly remove high-powered Uzi from AD carry after Season 3 Worlds. The struggle has been evident in their performance, as well, having placed at the bottom of the pack in the 2014 LPL Spring Split. 

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But now the Koreans are here. Over the past few weeks, Uzi has reportedly been scouting talent on the Korean server, playing several games on his Challenger account with not only Zero, but also Samsung Gunza.. Zero, the new support player for Royal Club, was previously a substitute player for KT Arrows.  Though he has only played jungle for the Arrows competitively, his preferred role is support. Zero has a less impressive resume than InSec, but he could provide insight into how to solve the problem of vision control in China: a problem which has held them back in recent months on the international stage.

InSec will take over for kmi, who while has performed well previously, particularly on Jarvan IV, doesn't hold a candle to InSec's dominance of the jungle. InSec brings with him a deep understanding of map pressure and objective-sneaking, a skill he utilized to devastating effect on his previous team, KT Rolster Bullets. That style of play has the potential to completely disrupt the LPL, where the jungle position has arguably been the weakest. Chinese teams will be forced to tighten their map control, particularly in the areas of warding and buff invasion, if they hope to keep up with InSec's flashy moves.

Of course, that's best-case-scenario. It almost goes without saying, but the introduction of Korean players to the Chinese scene is fraught with challenges. For starters, InSec and Zero will have the very basic issue of communicating with their new team. Further, InSec's team-fighting style relies on his ability to find a flanking angle and cause chaos among the enemy carries, or be the guy in the front making plays happen. The downside to this style is that inSec's timing has to be perfect, or he may frequently get himself killed due to being so deep behind enemy lines. With this kind of style in the group, it's easy to see how much work their communication will need.

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Outside communication, InSec and Zero might experience a fan backlash. Many fan responses to the idea of Korean players entering LPL since World Elite’s new Korean coach, Hiro, has appeared on the scene have been negative. In addition, a recent Chinese-language interview with the Chairman of L.ACE has revealed that LPL teams will be restricted to only two foreign players going forward to prevent a dilution of the Chinese talent pool. So while the organization is offering to subsidize teams pulling in foreign coaches, the general attitude toward foreign players doesn't appear to be the warmest.

EDG’s rise in the fans’ esteem, after their controversial formation before LPL Spring 2014, proves that Chinese fans can be won over by success. If InSec and Zero can make Royal Club a top LPL team, hearts may melt.  Until then, InSec and Zero have a hard journey ahead.

Their first trials begin at the Demacia Cup June 9 2014.

82 Comments

GameofThrawns20 votes

Koreans and Chinese on the same team?

NA and EU are in trouble.

finallylupus7 votes

I honestly don't think so. Or rather, this doesn't change anything as far as the international scene goes. Maybe it gives China a bit of a bump, but China always has a habit of looking strong against the west, then choking against Korea.

Still I'm rooting for anyone besides China since the BM is strong in their culture.

ZaylerTheEmperor3 votes

Yeah, ppl like Toyz, Misaya and TS are sooo BM...

GameofThrawns10 votes

Well Toyz was on TPA, which was a Southeast Asian team.

Korea has always been a whole other level in E-sports. I'm somewhat surprised that the Chinese region has any sort of edge against EU and NA.

As a Chinese-Canadian, I still root for them, even if OMG Allen has a no-handshake tantrum. GoGoing seems like a nice guy. LMQ gave Dignitas a bunch of free hugs today.

Merpamoo5 votes

And Tabe! Hes a really humble guy

Meanie405 votes

" LPL teams will be restricted to only two foreign players going forward to prevent a dilution of the Chinese talent pool. "

So when will NA and EU adopt this rule?

Kyrll5 votes

Never, since all of LMQ is considered foreign.

ømg2 votes

implying NA actually has talent when compared to the international scene.

Ssataniko1 votes

Well NA had the "talent" to destroy Chinese Team WE, Taipei Assassins, and beat OMG. So maybe you lack the "talent" of objective thought.

Eohor1 votes

Both WE and TPA lost their line up, and yeah, they beated OMG in the 2nd place match, which was pretty useless and that OMG didn't play, look what happened in the playoff. We still dont have the chinese talent

RunninOnHamsters1 votes

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool 'had'?

MPC3 votes

Shy Top InSec Jungle Faker Mid Uzi AD and Madlife Support please

llayclout5 votes

Sorry to be rude, but saying this basically proves to everyone that the only time you watch international play is when they play at allstars or worlds or an international event. At this point, there are 4 waaaay better candidates for top jungle ad and support. Top: Save/Acorn/Flame/Ssumday Jungle: DanDy/Spirit/Kakao ADC: Namei/Deft/Imp Support: Mata I'm sure there are more, but your list is veeeeery outdated. Shy hasn't been the best top laner since early s3, Insec was never the best jungler, he was good, but most just flashy. Uzi is possibly the best adc, but there are others that are at least as good as him. Madlife was knocked off his throne by Mata last spring and most top 8 korean teams have stronger supports than ML right now.

Huldrafolk5 votes

And we can say that a lot of Challenger players are better than some of the top LCS/LPL/OGN/GPL players (not to mention Alex Ich because he proved he's one of the greatest but I'm not afraid of saying 'k0u' would destroy a lot of junglers over there).

youngmonei3 votes

yeah i think shy is not the best top laner in korea he is like dyrus who is very controlled and composed top laner where as acorn save flame are more like balls and zionspartan. jungle i have to agree. but supp madlife is god and no one can argue against that but we can say that mata is the buddha so mata is on par with madlife.

Kyrll2 votes

To be fair to Madlife, it's hard to be the best when you're constantly being banned out of the champs everyone knows you dominate on.

ZerobyDivided4 votes

sorry to be rude, but saying this basically prove to everyone that you haven't being around for too long, Madlife has being at the top of the pro scene since season 2, who's mata? o thats right a new guy that wont last.

RunninOnHamsters1 votes

Ignorance Intensified

VG RaceCrown2 votes

OK can we just NA and EU will be turned into a welcome mat and developmental league for teams that can't play in KR OR CHINA

Dokmazing2 votes

"In addition, a recent Chinese-language interview with the Chairman of L.ACE has revealed that LPL teams will be restricted to only two foreign players going forward to prevent a dilution of the Chinese talent pool. So while the organization is offering to subsidize teams pulling in foreign coaches, the general attitude toward foreign players doesn't appear to be the warmest." Can we please get this rule in NA & EU LCS ASWELL?

finallylupus1 votes

Why would you want this rule? Do you want the NA and EU scenes to remain isolated from the rest of the world?

Tsuyoku2 votes

I'm not sure to understand why would a south korean player join the chinese league? Aren't they underpayed there?

Heart Of Iron1 votes

I google it and heres what i found in their currency 1 Yuan( Chinese currency) = 163.98 Won (south Korean Currency). Think the Chinese currency worth more.

Serenthia Shae1 votes

you do realize this does not answer his question? the currency is the nominal exchange rate. this doesn't tell the value of the real wages that they are being paid in china, neither the relative value of real wages between south Korea and China. To simplify the answer you would have to multiply the nominal wage with the exchange rate (163,98). this would be a simple answer, but it isn't fully sufficient. This i because it doesn't calculate the relative level of inflation between the two countries. i believe (though not sure) that you could estimate this by multiplying it all with (price-level-china/price-level-Skorea). this would give some insight into the strength of the wage in china compared to Korea. but yet again we don't know the wages they pay in china nor Korea, which leaves us unable to answer Tsuyoku's question; "aren't they underpaid in China". The wages are usually strictly confidential, so i believe the question is impossible to answere.

if u really wanna try; you can try combining the gini-index of South korea, and China; with the GDP pr. Capita. in chained values (cleansed from inflation; might be called sticky prices also). this might give some insight, though neither a viable nor direct answer. I tried looking for the gini index of both China and south korea and only found numbers from 2005 and 1998 respectively, which is kind of useless. It might be possible to find though.

sorry if my english isn't sufficient enough for you; or grammatically correct: Im not a native, and would neither expect a native to write perfectly in their own language.

Tsuyoku1 votes

effectively, I'm not talking about the value of the currency. otherwise european players would be the richest...

During the world cup S3, Tabe said he was earning something about 600~800 euros a month when he was still playing for Royal club, and decided he'd resign from his lol career cause the wage was way too low. The question is, do Korean players also earn that ridiculous salary? if not, I don't get why they'd transfer to China

ArisColdsac3 votes

the highest paid pros in China makes way more than those in Korea. I think DK.Burning makes about 50k in USD a year only from salary (and this number was 3-4 years old, it must be more now), then you add all the tourney money and other bonuses. Tabe wasn't making a lot because he never won an international title, WE's weixiao and EDG's clearlove and fzzf are prob the highest paid along all.

Sëvën1 votes

800 euros is about 5k yuan(chinese currency) in china, and he thinks he earns not much? he isnt a football player.and you cant just convert it stright away from euros to yuan by the exchange rate. like

silvangsjohn1 votes

umm namei would like a word

LGC Hearts1 votes

The Chinese have always been very big on nationalism. If fans want to watch games in a Chinese league, the general consensus is that the players they watch should also be Chinese. Even in other sports leagues in China (yes, League is a sport. eSports are sports.) there are rules limiting the number of foreigners allowed on a team - in the Chinese Basketball Association (CBA), for instance, there is also a 'two foreigners only' rule.

Dream N0 Evil1 votes

http://fantasy.lolesports.com/en-US/join/league/303826/9NYwheXxudgCyG84Ivv4 8-man league, join asap lets get draft done before noon.

L3v1athan1 votes

so no1 doubts faker as the best mid but look at KT arrows rookie, so good. maybe people should rethink

Ssataniko1 votes

"LPL teams will be restricted to only two foreign players going forward to prevent a dilution of the Chinese talent pool. " WOW! That's exactly something I brought up as regards leagues like the English Premier League in soccer and MOST such sports leagues. The number of foreign players are limited per each team. And yet LMQ is entirely foreign nationals playing in NA? But a team comprised only of NA/EU players could NEVER compete in the LPL under these rules. Isn't that amazing HYPOCRISY! Why isn't NA protected from similar "DILUTION" of talent?

MonsieurBanana1 votes

Say all you want, but I thoroughly enjoyed that LMQ/C9 game :)

Serenthia Shae1 votes

because the rule is kinda weird. bringing in foreign talent will only improve the strength of the players in NALCS, because they are able to learn from each other. even if this would empty out the entire NALCS of NA players, it would still improve the skill level of the NA players. Simply because this would just increase solo queue and team queue level, and thereby increase the relative skills of the challenger players. Naturally NA would in turn reclaim their spots in the NALCS as new and stronger challenger teams are formed. After all in NA there is more North American talent than Chinese, European and Korean talent. If u want NA or any other region to be able to rival the Korean, you should be happy every time new foreign talent joins any league. It helps improve play styles and make "dominant strategies".

finallylupus2 votes

I like how people are acting as if the NA and EU LCS will suddenly be flooded by Chinese and Koreans if we don't impose restrictions. There are already a lot of outside factors that would prevent players from coming to these scenes. The first is that they aren't guaranteed a spot unless they invest in the challenger scene. The Korean iteration of Quantic gaming proved that you can't ship a bunch of strong players to the US and have them automatically qualify for the LCS. Quantic tried to rush their entry, so they got destroyed on the first day. LMQ had to invest a lot of time in the US. They had to climb the NA challenger scene and take part in the challenger series, a process that takes a least a split and a half. That's a lot of time to be living in a foreign country with no guarantee that you'll make it pro (granted, LMQ had the closest we can call a guaranteed spot based on their performance).

Long story short, ask yourself if you would want to be living in a foreign country for at least half a year with no guarantee that you'll end up making it pro.

Ssataniko1 votes

"Additionally, Chinese fans and players have been noted for their national pride. So while teams in the west have welcomed players from other countries, this is the first instance of Korean players starting on a Chinese League of Legends team." And THAT in a nutshell explains exactly why most reasonable NA fans have trepidation about LMQ being in the NALCS. China hasn't welcomed foreign players let alone a completely foreign team into the LPL and who knows what sort of disdain the Korean players will face from Chinese fans. And while anyone questioning the motives and reason of allowing a team from a completely different region to compete in another region's Challenger Series (as LMQ did) is called "racist", when China does it it is simply considered 'NATIONAL PRIDE." Yeah, right.

v9X9cfepBW1 votes

come here baby: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbCjcGWdfX8 we start drafting after league is full

Kyrll1 votes

I think it's amusing that they think Chinese players are gonna let him use Lee Sin.

D3meZ1 votes

I think each region should play with their own players because if this continues like this all the regions will only have asians in their teams Im saying that as a half korean stop stealing talent (TSM pls)

Lim Bonza1 votes

You may think Faker is the Best player in Korea, I don't think so. As Korean who likes e-sports, I think Faker isn't the best. Nagne(KT Bullets now) has beaten Faker in WorldChampionship and Pawn(Samsung O) has beaten Faker several times, Rookie(KT Arrows now) has beaten Faker twice and also I think Dade and Apdo(Dopa) is better than Faker.

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