TSM are too good to let Dyrus go (ok before all Dyrus fan start raging, sure hes good, but he ain't good enough)
C9 they let Hai retired to bring in Incarnation which make them preform even worst than they did last split
DIG instead of building their team synergy, they throw every damn jungler they have away over and over (might as well just quit competitive League)
CLG too good at throwing (all there to it)
etc...............
canpan145 votes'Let Hai retire' Obviously you didn't follow/read up on the story. This is just a dumb statement.
Hangsterr1 voteswell he did still retired so whatever
KazaLyn Shao1 votesEither way, letting Hai go for incarnati0n was a bad move.
canpan144 votesThey didn't let him go. He retired because of issues with his hand.
KazaLyn Shao1 votesStill bad move. They're extra terrible now.
canpan144 votesHow is retiring because of an injury a bad move? He was basically risking the future of using his right hand normally if he kept playing competitively. Incarnation is playing well, the biggest problem is that Hai was their shotcaller so they are missing that link between them all and need time to sort it out. I'm a CLG fan btw so I'm not trying to be a fanboy here, but I think they will have a huge turn around in the coming weeks.
arc952 votesBut are there better Toplaners on the market(also willing to play for TSM) to replace Dyrus with?
Hangsterr1 votesOf course there is, just need to find them
Sage Idallian2 votesNo - the reason NA may never win worlds is because the country doesn't care enough about esports the same way Korea and China do. Hell it's even more legitimate in Europe than it is here.
Until that perception changes, and team OWNERS start taking things a little more seriously, the odds of NA winning are slim to none.
KazaLyn Shao1 votesCLG has never really evolved. They just get doublelift fed and expect him to carry. Cloud 9 is in shambles. No saving their current line up. TSM has an equally terrible line up, with Dyrus and Santorin needing to take a hike. DIG was never good. No surprise there. No other NA teams worth writing about.
Erasmos1 votesOk first of all, concerning another top laner that can perform at a LCS level, without prior team experience is extremely hard to find. There may be challenger teams that have good top laners, but to bring a challenger top laner into a professional lcs team and expect him to perform at the level of a top team is a massive request. Bringing solo q players is ever more challenging since team play is so different from solo q. There is a reason top laners like Dyrus, sOAZ, Impact, and Balls have been around for so long. It's because transferring to LCS play from solo q is a large change for top laners. They have to learn how to lane swap, they have to have a large champion pool of tanks, they have to know how to teleport when and where well. They have to deal with 3v1 tower dives, and they have to manage with a very minimal amount of farm. None of these things a solo q top laner has to do, that's why top laners are so hard to replace, and NA isn't exactly bursting at the seems with lcs ready top laners.
About C9, they have been the most stable team since they first came into the LCS, since they entered C9 has not missed a NA finals. Their roster had not changed until this season, so all those years of fine tuning their synergy and fixing strategies with their primary shotcaller are reset. Hai was the primary driving force behind the C9 machine. However his mechanical skill at the game had not been up to par with the other midlaners. Thus anytime C9 lost most of the time Hai was blamed by the community, Now finally after all those years of working with the same line up Hai retires due to his injury, the primary shot caller of C9, the driving force of team could no longer direct the others in game.
If you expect C9 to not suffer from this loss then you are gonna be dissapointed. Meteos had to take on the job of being the primary shotcaller for the team, and while he may be good at it, he isn't Hai who was called a world class shot caller. As for Incarnation, unless you have the ability to play on stage for one of NA's most succesful teams and go undefeated you have no reason to flame him. His mechanics are superb and he has the ability to make plays of high caliber. Now before you begin thinking "Oh man this dude is just a Incarnation fan, or is just looking to make a good name for himself." I want you to consider the role Incarnation was placed in and how you people who flame him have responded.
At the end of the Spring Split people were clamoring for Hai to retire, it was on Reddit, Twitch chat, and here in the forums. We all saw that Hai was past his mechanical prime, and C9 was not at the top like they used to be, so Hai retires and Incarnation comes in. Now only a few months later those same people who were begging Hai to leave are now asking for him to return. If you take the primary leader of C9 out and replace him with a new player with better mechanics but not the same shot calling ability naturally the team will have to change. I'm not saying all of this because I'm a die hard C9 fan, in fact im glad that TSM and C9 aren't on top, I think it's time we had a different team on top. I do believe that the community is being overly harsh on C9 and Incarnation specifically because they aren't 1st place when a huge part of their team changed.
Hangsterr1 votesThis guy here must be a total dumbass to say that here LMAO, massive large tank champions pool?????
they ban just 3 fucking top lane and Dyrus couldn't do shit and force to play something he's not good at, tank he only does well in LCS was Maokai and maybe just 1 or 2 that he only does well with it and that was it.....
I don't even know if this kid watch LCS or a Dyrus fanboy who come here to post some idiot comment
And C9 Hai his mechanic not even the best, he's only known for his "shot calling," no one need to be a good ass fucking player to be in LCS, teleporting? Anyone can fucking teleport at that fucking level, minions, wards, or turret. How fucking retarded are you LMAO
Where did you come up with the idea of someone having a large champions pool when all and every see is Dyrus play Lulu, Mao, and maybe some Rumbo and that it......you called that fucking large champion pool
Let's see here, DIG now at top 5 this split, and they have bring in 3-4 new jungler and maybe 1-2 that no one don't even seen in LCS ever (they came in and perform well, it just other team were a bit better) Cloud, Azinging, they weren't fucking that bad, they did well and made it into the LCS once (meaning other can too)
Erasmos1 votesFirst off reading your post was super difficult work on your fucking English. Second off Dyrus's champ pool sucked ass before MSI and Regi told him to expand it and get better or they would make changes. So then he started spamming new champs in solo q (If you kept up with esport news you would know).
"No one need to be a good ass fucking player to be in LCS." I dunno who told you that or what kind of thinking you have to be going through to believe that, but you're Silver 3, if you went into the LCS you'd get stomped so fucking hard everyone would be impressed if you didn't go 0/5 before 15 minutes. Also if you think you can just teleport anywhere on the map and think it will work you are definitely mistaken. Ive seen top laners tp to a ward behind the enemy team and get completely fucked, its all about knowing when to tp, where to tp, and how to control the wave so you can tp without losing to much farm.
I dunno why Dig changes junglers so often, that team is just wack af.
Hangsterr1 voteslearn English?? then how the fuck did you make the first reply so fucking long in the first place.....if you couldn't read, you should had just move on from this post....cus your making more retarded comment here
Uva9x6gDhC1 votesLol Helios is a MASSIVE improvement over Azingy