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NA and EU Finals predictions

SinatraZ··1 votes·1,091 views

TSM vs C9 I know C9 won a lot in the past against TSM but this split TSM looks way stronger. Both top and bot lanes are similar but TSM mid and jungle are better, in my opinion. Verdict: TSM win

UOL vs FNC Hard to call since both teams are great and entertaining but I think FNC, with their experience, is gonna win because all their lanes are better, except jungle. Verdict: FNC win

**TL vs TIP ** I think both teams are even for the skills matchup, it will all come down to TIP Rush if he can carry and play fighter junglers and not tanky ones like Nunu. TL, on the other side, have to work on their pick phase (DO NOT pick LULU mid omg ... Fenix need to pick carry mid laner) and on their motivation. Verdict: TL win

**SK vs H2K ** Another one that is hard to call since all lanes are pretty even, except H2K top is better in my opinion. SK Gaming sucess depends on FORGIVENGRE perfomance unlike H2K. **Verdict: H2K win **

21 Comments

Vixanys2 votes

Interesting Predictions.

I don't know about Santorin v Meteos. Though everyone knows Bjerg v Hai is a lane mismatch but if Hai can stay relevant and be included in team fights, I think it will be a bit more of a struggle I call it 3-2 for C9.

Kikis v Reignover. This is the defining matchup in UoL v Fnatic. If Kikis can get the best of Reignover. UoL Wins.

I completely agree with the 3rd place matches in your predictions.

SinatraZ2 votes

Its funny how my 4 predictions were right. Im so good ;)

Vixanys1 votes

Good Job. I'm happy about the 3rd place games. Finals, were disappointing in NA.

EU Finals were entertaining but I feel like Both teams had some bad performances.

TheSequelsRBad1 votes

I think I would personally disagree with the statement of Santorin being better than meteos. In addition, I think C9's bottom lane has the edge over TSM's, but TSM midlane has an advantage in this series I would say, so the series depends, in my mind, whether Santorin can get bjerg significantly ahead, or whether Meteos can get Sneaky ahead.

SinatraZ1 votes

Its not that Santorin is better than Meteos, they are equal but Santorin synergy with the team is better. Pretty sure, Gragas will be perma banned in this serie :P

Also, C9 botlane was better before but WildTurtle and Lustboy improved a lot and have to be taken seriously.

Vixanys1 votes

You know, unless we see more "things Wildturtle does". Then it will be more than likely a C9 win.

TheSequelsRBad1 votes

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Its not that Santorin is better than Meteos, they are equal but Santorin synergy with the team is better. Pretty sure, Gragas will be perma banned in this serie :P

Also, C9 botlane was better before but WildTurtle and Lustboy improved a lot and have to be taken seriously.

They have to be taken seriously indeed, andI think they are the second best bot lane in NA, but I still think C9's bot lane has a slight edge.

Pigby1 votes

I think TiP is better than TL. I just think that TL looked better in the semis because TSM played better than C9.

Helmight1 votes

I think I agree with most of your predictions, except for H2K beating SK. SK's been way too consistent this season, and even though they lost to UOL it was a close series. H2K's good, but I don't think they have what it takes to come out on top of the most dominant team of the split.

I think Liquid has a chance to beat out TiP, but it all depends on which TiP shows up to play. If they manage to get their heads together by the time the series starts, it'll be a quick 3-0 for Impulse. If they're still beating up on themselves though, I could see Liquid pulling out a win in 4.

ZeroAnarchy1 votes

EU Finals - FNC, honestly I think across the board they have better players with the exception of Vardags being a slight bit better than SteelBack but to be honest both are just clean ups and are carried by their supports NA Finals - TSM - Bjergsen and Lustboy, need I say more? 3rd place EU - SK - Everyone on SK is better except Fox and Nyph 3rd place NA - TL - really want them to break their curse, it was fun to watch CLG get ass handled and live up to their name of FreeLG. Not to mention, the were so close to beating C9

Vixanys1 votes

Sneaky outclasses Wildturtle. Meteos and Santorin are even. Lustboy is admittedly better than Lemon. Bjergsen outclasses Hai. Balls (when he shows up) can carry where Dyrus does not. This match is a lot closer than most people see. I gave it to C9 to win, but I think it will be extremely close.

Next, Fnatic vs UoL is basically Reginover v Kikis. If Kikis plays like he has been, UoL can win, once again a close game, I gave it to UoL.

SK is too one dimensional and predictably, you ban out Forgiven and then shut down Sven, we'll see SK lose.

ZeroAnarchy1 votes

The difference is that Dyrus is not a carry top laner like Balls is. He is more of a supportive style, and even if you gank him a million times he can still be a factor in the game.

As for FNC vs UOL, as long as they don't play shit like Lee Sin top, they will win quite easily, not to mention they have Yellowstar, who is the shotcaller and the veteran of that team.

Vixanys1 votes

No there have been plenty of games where you camp Dyrus and watch him just keep feeding which makes him less and less relevant in the games.

The times you are bringing up is when a team will focus Dyrus to the detriment of other lanes. C9 and TSM scrim pretty regularly. I don't see that happening. And while I see a lead developing in mid, I don't see a snowball.

As I mentioned, I predict this goes 5 games. Each will be entertaining, but I give the win to C9.

SinatraZ1 votes

I agree with most of your statements except Sneaky being better than Wildturtle. I think Sneaky is overrated but we'll see in the finals.

Vixanys1 votes

And that is where I find issue, because I find Wildturtle to be overrated. He makes bad decisions and relies entirely on Santorin/Lustboy/Bjergsen to do anything in a game.

Sneaky on the other hand is consistent, can carry C9 on his back (with a bit of help from Balls/Meteos) and overall is just a rockstar when it comes to playing as his team needs him to.

SinatraZ1 votes

You're saying SK Freddy is better than H2K Odoamne ? damn son lol

Vixanys1 votes

The problem with saying that SK are going to beat H2k (this is more directed at ZeroAnarchy) is that Fox is inconsistent. Freddy can't carry. That boils it down to Sven and Forgiven. Teams have found banning Forgiven out leads to victory because if he cannot play the way he wants he loses.

Odoamne, Ryu, Hjärnan are all capable of carrying and do more so than not.

Odoamne is a beast and that is all that needs to be said about that.

Praise be to Pr0lly for his grace and guidance to H2K 3rd!

ZeroAnarchy1 votes

Odoamne can only play tanks, Freddy is way more diverse.

Vixanys1 votes

While I agree that Odoamne plays a fair bit of tanks, I disagree that Freddy is "more diverse".

Proof? Regular season: Both Odo and Freddy played 7 unique champions in 18 games. Playoffs: Odo played 6 unique champions in 13 games. Which included Diana /Hecarim /Rumble while Freddy only played 3 unique champions in 10 games. Which was only Shyvana /Maokai /Morgana

Totals: Odo Gnar/Sion/Lulu/Mao/Liss/Kennen/Irelia/Shen/Diana/Hecarim/Rumble 12 unique champions in 31 Games

Freddy Gnar/Liss/Kennen/Azir/Rene/Morg/Mao/Shy 8 Unique champions in 28 Games

This also plays for their roles in the team. Odo is was usually run as a frontline supportive player. On occasion could be run as a carry.

SK had their 1/3/1 split push for pressure which meant that Freddy had to play something that could duel. Which means less tanks and more bruisers/carries.

Vixanys1 votes

Reverse Sweep Accomplished! Just need TL to win Game 5. Then we can watch UoL beat Fnatic and C9 beat TSM then I can go buy a lotto ticket. Millionaire-dom here I come.

Jelubi1 votes

I'm expecting a TSM win 3-2. TSM will come out slightly behind in the early game for the majority of the games maybe except 1 game where they may come out ahead. It has been this way with TSM forever, they are a comeback team that wins in teamfights. Overall both TSM and C9 players are about equal if you compare every lane head to head.

Top: Balls is known as a better "carry" top laner and Dyrus is known as the guy who gets killed non stop early game but in the end Dyrus does NOT try to carry, and by late game he is always a meat shield for his team and that is exactly what TSM needs. The difference here is while Balls can stomp a game every once in a while, Dyrus cannot be taken out of the game while Balls can.

Jungle: Comparing this season alone, Santorin could be considered equal to Meteos, the only difference here is Meteos has an edge in experience but the overall difference this will make wont be too big if Santorin plays the same way he has been all split.

Mid: Bjergsen wins in most aspects honestly, but Hai is underrated and is a better mesh with his team in a teamfight while Bjergsen is an outlier in TSM's teamfight but manages to make the plays.

Bot Lane: About equal overall. WildTurtle and Lust are more likely to make a mistake, and Sneaky is a better laner than WildTurtle. But LustBoy is better than Lemon once outside of the lane. Turtle's average play skill is lower than Sneaky's but Turtle max potential play skill is higher than Sneaky's. He is essentially High risk, High reward while Sneaky is more of consistently pretty good.

But it will all come down to the Teamfight, and TSM is the best Teamfight team in the LCS by a mile. They are the only team consistently doubted because of their average early game and slow closing but they are the only team who manages to dominate like that. They can be down 3-5k gold and still pull off those Teamfight wins that no one else in the west can do. A very underdog style but very effective.

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