Giants vs Vit remake

Earl Eulrich·Mar 9, 2017·1 votes·1,920 views

what the heck? there´s not really anything there to justify taking a sure win away from Giants and to excuse Vit from their own severe mistakes...not even if Ori does not have an ultimate it would make any difference in a game that Vit lost for 30min straight so far. This is just really ridiculling the competition to a point where it´s outright unprofessional and unfair. Waaay to go Riot, waay to go...but sure, just go brag about how you have a tool to set back time in these cases where it would be of need that can´t do shit apparently. good grief.

18 Comments

PAULBROKEACHAIRMar 9, 20172 votes

I 100 percent agree. I have seen bs remakes before but at least the team that got screwed still won. This is ridiculous and I wish there was a way we could boycott vitality. I hope they get regulated. If I was a giants fan and I was there i'd run and interrupt a player on the giants and have them go oh its a game breaking remake, until they win lol.

TurquoiseYoshiMar 9, 20173 votes

You would definitely get thrown out the first time that you did that.

KorijenkinsMar 9, 20172 votes

I'm just gonna say this. If Giants were truly the better team they would've just won again.

Earl EulrichMar 9, 20171 votes

not really...it´s just really harsh psychologically if you get your deserved win taken from you and then you fall behind in the next game, that has absolutly nothing to do with being better or not. They punished Vit hard for their arrogant draft and really deserved to win Game 2, it´s just really shitty Vit got a free pass on that.

ShaolinToiletMar 9, 20172 votes

That's not how it works

GeminiRuneMar 9, 20172 votes

Put yourself in the scenario: you're on a low table team wanting to secure a win and all of a sudden something of a game breaking degree throws you and your team off. Invisible ults, particle bugging, Phantom Garens spinning in bushes, you name it. The game is never over until the nexus explodes. Suppose you were on VIT. What would you have done? Cause I would have called for a remake as well knowing if my team were to have lost, that'd just put us one more game closer to relegation, ESPECIALLY if Origen won their following series.

I can understand you're upset. I am too as a viewer. That was definitely a 2-0 win for GIA. But like Korijenkins said, they could have just won again and didn't, effectively resorting back to the same series choking they undergo when they slip behind. And to point out one statement:

Waaay to go Riot, waay to go...but sure, just go brag about how you have a tool to set back time in these cases where it would be of need that can´t do shit apparently.

This is just out of anger. Nobody's bragging whatsoever. Bugs happen. Gamebreaking scenarios happen. Remakes happen. They have the tool which literally underwent an emergency crash course use because of such a scenario. It's unfortunate that it couldn't get around the entire world in 30 days or anywhere else for that matter. Who could've seen such a need for this tool so soon?

Earl EulrichMar 9, 20171 votes

This is just out of anger. Nobody's bragging whatsoever. Bugs happen. Gamebreaking scenarios happen. Remakes happen. They have the tool which literally underwent an emergency crash course use because of such a scenario. It's unfortunate that it couldn't get around the entire world in 30 days or anywhere else for that matter. Who could've seen such a need for this tool so soon?

yea that had just been out of anger...but it´s just so upsetting. There´s lots on the line for Giants aswell and they played their hearts out and really seemed improved and deserved that 2-0 over Vit - and then some stupid bug just taketh it away from them. I mean at this point if they insist on a remake they should just have called it a day and delayed the remake to fryday, so at least they could do it with the same shitty draft from Vit instead of letting them get away with murder. That game just had been so clearly lost for Vit before the bug happened, i really don´t see how they would justify a complete rework here.

TurquoiseYoshiMar 9, 20172 votes

If you would like to read the LCS rulebook and see that, by the rules that both teams agreed to, this was completely fair, you can go ahead.

HexaDecimelMar 9, 20171 votes

The pause came from Giants. They couldn't see Orianna's ball. Its not Vitalities fault.

Ale non è maleMar 9, 20172 votes

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The pause came from Giants. They couldn't see Orianna's ball. Its not Vitalities fault.

Nope, it was Nukeduck that paused. And this is what really caused the problem. Since it was VIt that paused, the refree asked them if they want to remake, despite the fact that the bug affected both teams. Of course VIT choose to remake, but GIA got f**ked hard because they were clearly going to win the game with that advantage and no way for VIT to make plays.

The absurd thing is that if GIA noticed the bug first and paused theirselves, there would have never been a remake because they would have refused and they would have their deserved 2-0 win

HexaDecimelMar 9, 20171 votes

I mean they still lost the next two games, games not over tell its over.

Ale non è maleMar 9, 20172 votes

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I mean they still lost the next two games, games not over tell its over.

How about no? No way VIT was winning that 2nd game Remake started from scratch, and VIT was allowed to have a brand new pick and ban phase, so they weren't even forced on same composition, and you can tell how giants got seriously tilted by that

The problem wasn't much in the rules, it was refree decision. Refree has the last say, and he should have ruled for a Giants victory or he should have asked GIA if they wanted to continue and not VIT, overruling the rule

HexaDecimelMar 9, 20171 votes

I never said that VIT could have won the second match. All I am saying is Giants still had two more games to secure a victory and they failed.

Ale non è maleMar 9, 20172 votes

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I never said that VIT could have won the second match. All I am saying is Giants still had two more games to secure a victory and they failed.

Don't downvote people because they are saying you are wrong dude

If VIT could not have won the second match, it was 2-0 for GIA, period. VIT didn't deserve the rematch, and it was a referee mistake to handle the situation the way it did, as it not only take away the victory from GIA but also handle them in a way it affected the next games that had to be still played - it was impossible to not tilt after that sequence of events - GIA got damaged here

HexaDecimelMar 9, 20171 votes

I haven't downvoted anyone, I almost never use that feature. And how am I wrong? All I said was that Giants had another two opportunities to win the series and lost. That is perfectly accurate. [slayer-jinx-catface]

Ale non è maleMar 10, 20172 votes

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I haven't downvoted anyone, I almost never use that feature. And how am I wrong? All I said was that Giants had another two opportunities to win the series and lost. That is perfectly accurate. [slayer-jinx-catface]

There was a downvote 1 minute after I posted that comment dude. Either that was a Vit fan patrolling NA boards or you were the first to read that post

You are wrong because GIA should have been the team that would have to decide if accept a remake or carry on, not VIT. Not only they were the team that was ahead, but they were also also the team that could have been more damaged from the bug, as Nukeduck had indirect ways to track the positioning on the ball and communicate it to his team while Giants were the team that could not locate Orianna ball at all VIT was the "damaged" team by rule definition because Nuke called the pause, but they really weren't by the factual situation. GIA had more to lose and was the team most affected by the bug, it's them that have to make the call if remake or accept the risk and carry on (and at that point if they carry on they would have 0 reason to complain if VIT makes a comeback)

The problem was not on the rules, was the application of the rules because it is the refree that has to make the correct call in the given situation...once he decides game should have not been conceded yet (which it is debatable, no one thought VIT could win at that point, but I guess it can be eventually accepted) , is to ask GIA if they want to carry on at their own risk or remake, not ask VIT

Ask VIT to remake is idiotic, of course they say yes, but GIA didn't really have to be forced to remake, they have to chose if they want to finish that second game...which they would have done winning the game and the series 2-0. Of course they can play in theory better the next two games, but it is clear how getting tilted by this situation affect their performance, so no way those wins by VIT can considered legit against a 100% performance GIA

HexaDecimelMar 10, 20171 votes

But I never said GIA shouldn't have been allow to decide if they wanted to accept. Sure I miss heard the casters and thought GIA cause the pause, but you are acting like I am some kind of VIT supporter. All I said is that despite what happened GIA still had to win one of the remaining two matches and didn't.