I know that only 3 teams out of NA get to go to Worlds each year, the spring winner, the summer winner and the overall points winner, but there is no way to check the points that i know of. If anyone knows where/how to check to see if C9 has a shot at going to worlds this year id appreciate it. Also out of curiosity if TSM wins both the Spring and Summer splits who gets to go besides them?
BigBellBrute4 votesActually it's the summer winner, the total points winner, and the gauntlet winner. That means C9 still has a shot and a good one. They'll either be the #1 or #2 seed in the gauntlet depending upon what happens tomorrow with TSM. A TSM win means c9 only has to win one match to make worlds. A Dig win means they'll have to win two.
But be honest. Don't you as a C9 fan feel rather uh dirty having to root for TSM? HAHA :)
xJLx MCHammer1 votesActually it's the summer winner, the total points winner, and the gauntlet winner. That means C9 still has a shot and a good one. They'll either be the #1 or #2 seed in the gauntlet depending upon what happens tomorrow with TSM. A TSM win means c9 only has to win one match to make worlds. A Dig win means they'll have to win two.
But be honest. Don't you as a C9 fan feel rather uh dirty having to root for TSM? HAHA :)
Nope, I don't mind. I'm not a big fan of DIG because they practically imported so many players over their run that's it's surprise to me now
Yxgl222HaX2 votesWhy would they? you can like more than one team from your own region. When its c9 vs tsm ill root for c9. But tsm vs anyone else i root for tsm (unless its a match they need to lose for c9 to advance). Yeah, i prefer c9 but all in all i root for NA teams in general. If an NA team won worlds i wouldnt care which team it was, as long as it was one of ours. Just like i wouldnt mind if Eu won worlds or even a wild card as long as it isnt Kr AGAIN (seariously are worlds even worth watching after groups? already know whose going to win)
C9 Scott Free 3 votesHuge C9 fan and they should be final boss for the gauntlet but with that said I don't want them to go. They have been way too up and down this season and I can't trust them to do NA proud
BigBellBrute1 votes[{quoted}](name=C9 Feel The Bern,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=4WvsUFZQ,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2017-08-27T02:42:09.737+0000)
Huge C9 fan and they should be final boss for the gauntlet but with that said I don't want them to go. They have been way too up and down this season and I can't trust them to do NA proud
Well let's face it. When it comes to worlds, it's Korea and then everyone else unless Korea messes up to be honest. 4 teams are going to get lucky and not have Korea in their group. One team is going to get lucky and not face Korea in the quarters. That's about the extent of it unless Korea messes up. I'd like to see some new blood at worlds. Let totally new teams disappoint instead of the same old teams I say. HAHA.
ModWulf Helhammer2 votesIf TSM wins summer, then second place should have the most Champion points and will also qualify. 3rd team then has to go through the gauntlet run
Truly Prideful2 votesRiot actually did an article that outlines what LCS teams can still make it and how. Basically C9 has to win the gauntlet at this point to go.
http://www.lolesports.com/en_US/articles/how-can-my-na-lcs-team-qualify-worlds-2017
xJLx MCHammer1 votesBasically, gauntlet only
GeminiRune1 votesC9 will be in Round 2 of the Gauntlet by a single scenario: TSM loses Semis and DIG wins split. IMT or CLG would then have more points or a higher placement resulting in them being in the Gauntlet Finals.
warpenguin5551 votesC9 has to win the gauntlet. Best outcome would be if both TSM and IMT make finals. If that happens, C9 gets the last stop of the gauntlet and only has to win 1 best of 5 to make worlds, and more importantly, they would not have to play both CLG and DIG, just 1 of them. Or if Flyquest pulls a 2015 C9 they don't mess with either :D
ChompyWulf1 votesFrankly, I hope C9 doesn't go. Aside from Jensen, their team is under performing. Neither Ray nor Impact has stepped up. Contractz has been mostly forgettable, and their bit duo has been off all split. Barring an embarrassing meltdown to TSM, DIG is looking far better. Adrian and Alter have made a huge splash, Ssumday and Shrimp have been solid play makers and Keane does enough from mid to be a factor. CLG has been looking pretty crummy between the NV series and being swept today by a surging IMT.
As things stand, C9 and CLG would just continue to be disappointments on the biggest stages. Fresh teams and faces for NA, even if they don't go far, is an improvement from the cycle of meltdowns of past Worlds.
Smart Kitty1 votesFrankly, I hope C9 doesn't go. Aside from Jensen, their team is under performing. Neither Ray nor Impact has stepped up. Contractz has been mostly forgettable, and their bit duo has been off all split. Barring an embarrassing meltdown to TSM, DIG is looking far better. Adrian and Alter have made a huge splash, Ssumday and Shrimp have been solid play makers and Keane does enough from mid to be a factor. CLG has been looking pretty crummy between the NV series and being swept today by a surging IMT.
As things stand, C9 and CLG would just continue to be disappointments on the biggest stages. Fresh teams and faces for NA, even if they don't go far, is an improvement from the cycle of meltdowns of past Worlds.
Funny how you say they continue to be disappointments when they have pretty much brought us our best international performances.
ChompyWulf1 votesYou mean when they stumbled out of Groups last year to get swept out of the Quarters? Or the year before when they couldn't win ONE game of four to get out of groups? Or the one before that when they and TSM both were beaten in Quarterfinals by the Samsung squads? Or any MSI ever, or winning minor IEM tournaments?
Ever since being seeded into the Quarters of Season 3 and promptly losing their only series, they have never been of any more note than TSM or CLG, who have been just as disappointing through international play, the only somewhat major trophy NA ever had a lousy IEM Championship trophy won by TSM, who won without ever facing any other team which would go on to Worlds.
Yes, I laugh at those three teams and cheer for Immortals to break the mold.
QuantumPanther2 votesdidnt CLG get second at MSI last year?
ChompyWulf1 votesYes, they did. Does it mean anything? Not really. This year they really made MSI into an event worth taking note of, with about a dozen teams getting a shot at international play and lasting a month, giving teams actual time to prepare and adapt to the meta clashes. The past two years before it was a tiny 6 team tournament that lasted maybe a week and was a blip on the radar because it was so short and had so little impact or analysis involved.
QuantumPanther2 votesit still matched them against some of the better teams across some of the most challenging regions, such as LPL, LCK, and EU. I feel like that has to count for something, especially since it was one of the major international events (much moreso than any of the IEM events)
Smart Kitty1 votesYou mean when they stumbled out of Groups last year to get swept out of the Quarters? Or the year before when they couldn't win ONE game of four to get out of groups? Or the one before that when they and TSM both were beaten in Quarterfinals by the Samsung squads? Or any MSI ever, or winning minor IEM tournaments?
Ever since being seeded into the Quarters of Season 3 and promptly losing their only series, they have never been of any more note than TSM or CLG, who have been just as disappointing through international play, the only somewhat major trophy NA ever had a lousy IEM Championship trophy won by TSM, who won without ever facing any other team which would go on to Worlds.
Yes, I laugh at those three teams and cheer for Immortals to break the mold.
I didn't even expect C9 to make it out of groups last year at all. I was pretty confident FW would take it after their performances at the previous worlds and even MSI. Yet, the overly hyped TSM couldn't even make it out of theirs after aiming for top 4 at worlds with the best roster the organization has ever had. Even with TSM being in most difficult group, they still were a skilled enough team to advance, yet didn't.
They were the 7th place NA team heading to worlds, and still managed to outperform CLG and TSM. Sure they didn't have a korean team, but all 3 of their opponents should've been more skilled than them. I honestly thought they'd only take a game off IG, and many others thought they wouldn't even win a game.
SSW and SSB we're the favorites to win worlds, it was unquestionable they'd get knocked out. SSW probably wouldn't have even lost a game if they hadn't put Looper on Singed. The fact C9 even got a game off of SSB is impressive itself.
They never qualified for MSI sure, but look at how well TSM has performed in comparison. At least CLG got 2nd place, TSM couldn't even make it past groups twice.
I never said their performances were great, but it still is the best our teams have to show, so yes, I do think cloud 9 deserves a spot. If you want to laugh at that sure, but saying they're continuing to be disappointments when they've pretty much brought us the furthest in international competition, with the exception of CLG's MSI performance, is a bit much. Now, I'm hopeful IMT can break the mold, but I think of all the NA teams that have been to worlds, C9 deserves the most respect for actually doing something even if it's just one-step further than everyone else. Also, you'd rather have Dignitas, a team who barely makes playoffs or avoids relegation despite if their team is talented or not? Look at all that hype SSumday and Chaser brought and they still barely made 6th in the spring split. Props to them for making their first semis, but look at how well they performed in 3rd place, and the following regional qualifier. Yet, you would've had them over C9, just because they'd be a new face? It doesn't matter if we have new faces if they don't make it out of groups either.
ChompyWulf1 votesSo with tons of hype and barely getting into Quarters and promptly losing out very convincingly is better than getting knocked out in groups? That's only a half step better and not worthy of any praise.
Yes, I would love to see new faces and teams make a trip to worlds and get that huge stage and international experience. Clearly TSM, C9, and CLG have not benefitted from their experiences at worlds as all of them have never once even made semis.
Call me crazy, but I would rather see new teams try than have my expectations in the gutter from the same teams failing every year.
Smart Kitty1 votesSo with tons of hype and barely getting into Quarters and promptly losing out very convincingly is better than getting knocked out in groups? That's only a half step better and not worthy of any praise.
Yes, I would love to see new faces and teams make a trip to worlds and get that huge stage and international experience. Clearly TSM, C9, and CLG have not benefitted from their experiences at worlds as all of them have never once even made semis.
Call me crazy, but I would rather see new teams try than have my expectations in the gutter from the same teams failing every year.
Okay but if those new faces can't even make it into quarter finals, what's really the point? I'd rather have the best teams in NA representing NA. Even if they only make it to quarters every year, at least their doing something. I don't care if it's new faces or HotshotGG or Reginald. Just keep getting closer to semis, show a little fight. I don't wanna see DIG and TL going 0-6 just for NA to have "new faces". I'd rather see C9 or TSM or whoever get to quarters every year instead, even if they do get knocked out after. At least then we actually have a chance of getting to semis, albeit how slim it is.
ChompyWulf1 votesC9 and TSM do the same garbage performance every year. At least IMT gave us some real hope when they were actually competive with Longzhu for half their first game, and were able to stage a comeback against a fed Fnatic. Meanwhile TSM throws because it's what they do, and for two years running C9 has been graced with a Chinese team choking and an LMS team that looks worse than half the play-in teams.
Smart Kitty1 votesC9 and TSM do the same garbage performance every year. At least IMT gave us some real hope when they were actually competive with Longzhu for half their first game, and were able to stage a comeback against a fed Fnatic. Meanwhile TSM throws because it's what they do, and for two years running C9 has been graced with a Chinese team choking and an LMS team that looks worse than half the play-in teams.
You're really going to try and devalue c9 advancing when IMT couldn't even beat FNC or GAM to advance. They had a way better shot than C9 and couldn't even win one game on the 2nd day. Really, just because they put up a fight against Longzhu in 1 game they deserve more praise than C9? Okay, so does that mean TSM and CLG's runs last year were good, just because they took a game off ROX and SSG? I bet you won't say that, but it's okay for IMT's because they're a new team. If anything, they false hoped harder than CLG did last year. And you want to talk about C9 getting free wins, when IMT only really won against FNC cuz Rekkles got caught out overextending? C9 had two chinese teams choke back to back? How did IMAY choke? Everyone knew they would do poorly. Most people had them slotted 4th in their group. If anything they overperformed getting two games off of FW. And if anything people overhyped EDG, they underperform at worlds every year. This was just the first year they actually had a team that could challenge them for 2nd place, and look what happened they failed. They're pretty much the chinese TSM, win domestically, but fail internationally. Their only exception was MSI. EDG actually did better than I expected.
III BAKURYU III 1 votesI think C9 only has to win 1 best of series in the gauntlet to be apart of Worlds.
MysterQ1 votesThey are in.
Kinjishi1 votesMore like... Is there any chance of C9 getting anywhere at Worlds after Play-Ins (without a Korean team carrying them to Quarters)? Nope.
