Early 9.10 Patch Discussion
Hi all,
With patch 9.9 on its way out the door, we can begin looking forward to what the 9.10 patch could bring to Summoner’s Rift. For 9.10, we’re tentatively working on the following:
- Riven
- Vayne
- Master Yi
- Runic Echoes
- General Champion/Item/Rune Tuning
Riven / Vayne The immediate questions for both Riven and Vayne are “Why now? What’s changed?” Insofar as their place in the game or their performance within the game, not a whole lot has changed, honestly. Both have been powerful for a string of patches, but we didn't think their performance was absolutely out of line for the game. This can be contrasted with a case like Hecarim, whose performance did clearly stand out from the rest in 9.9, and was therefore directly nerfed.
Instead, Riven and Vayne are both strong and commonly frustrating, even if their performance isn’t crossing critical thresholds. For champions in this situation, we’d prefer to address that disparity in longer-form work, and we’ll do that when we think that’s the highest priority work we can be doing. Taking that and returning to the original question, now is a good opportunity for us to sink some deeper time into them beyond just their power level.
Master Yi Master Yi has a history of stomping lower MMR games and being much less effective the higher on the ladder he’s played. We’re looking to see if we can make his performance not so heavily disparate by skill level. Possible avenues include increasing agency but reducing scaling, adding executional skill checks, and/or adding clearer counterplay opportunities against him.
Runic Echoes We’ll be looking into whether Runic Echoes is strong enough or if, for example, its best users are being held to standards more comparable to Warrior’s average-to-good users.
General Champion/Item/Rune Tuning Once 9.9 has been out in the wild for a few days, we’ll add some more stuff to 9.10 patch based on what we’re seeing from 9.9. Those usually hit the PBE the week after a new patch hits.
That about wraps things up! Though details are light, we hope this provides some amount of clarity as to what you might see in the near future.
Cheers, RiotRepertoir
the same way Jhin was when he could get 1400 ad while fully stacked. At the moment Rageblade offers too much for it to be a a 2 item buy.
and Runic Echoes need to be removed from the first buy choice in both roles. They bring too much burst damage and makes it so they are only valuable to burst mages or assassins. I have been begging for this throughout 2 years ever since the changes to mage itemization and chamption mana pools in the midlane….You didnt solve anything with the changes, you only favoured burst and let the other mages in the dirt. Artillery mages have serious mana problems right now , especially Xerath where he cant even wave clear decently anymore and Ludens just doesnt work with their class. And PLEASE bring back DeathFire Torch. It was literally the only way for poke mages to have some kind of scaling in the late game. Comet is unreliable and just useless at points.
Right now gives 18 Magic Penetration, The Highest in the game, and it only costs 1100 gold. Why do champions need 18 magic penetration this early in the game? Just lower it down to 15 again or to 12.
for living, if you ruin it, these people are going poor.
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