the reason why riot listens to reddit more than the boards

rawiazam1·8/19/2018, 12:43:19 AM·6 votes·4,165 views

it's because in reddit, the people who read the post express if they support it more than in the boards.

in reddit you'll see a post that was posted 1 hour ago and got 600 upvotes,here you'll see a post that was posted 1 day ago, with 13k views that got only 120 upvotes and 20 downvotes. That's about 1% of the people who clicked on the post expressed if they like it or not, and i'm (almost) certain that the one day old boards post have more views than the one hour old reddit post. even given the fact that not everyone who clicks the post reads it till the end, i don't think that the precentage of people who read it show thier idea(correct word?) is remotley high enough for riot to take consederation of what they are telling

so please stop bitching that riot doesn't listen to the boards and start telling riot what you like and don't like

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Vlada Cut8/19/2018, 12:49:03 AM5 votes

Or maybe you know, everyone on the boards fricking flames them and as why they hardly want to responsd.to us or even read what we wan It's like you are being harassed in your own house, it wouldn't feel comfortable, would it? And no, when I say "you" I am not talking directly to you as you in this case, so you wouldn't think I'm toxic.

saltran8/19/2018, 7:14:24 AM1 votes

Or maybe is because the Boards are a fking joke in general.

I saw again a upvoted coment calling Zhonyas this:

hourglass: the AD counter that actually makes it easier for you to be killed by rooting you in place for 2 seconds

Or we can talk how on this thread https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/AU4dMXE2-i-am-actually-surprised-that-non-adc-in-bot-managed-to-be-viable-one-whole-month ppl is pretending that Tristana is meta when she's the worst adc in the game right now (along with Kalista) and needs buffs.

Like...reading the Gameplay Boards actually makes me sad sometimes.

And is not that redditors show more support in percentage, is that the Boards are not even 1/10 of Reddit in terms of active members.

FixHealsRemoveGW8/19/2018, 10:13:25 AM1 votes

I doubt that they would look only at the votes. The votes are just an indicator for the actual problem. But this problem doesn't have to be factual it doesn't have to be real, it could just be that the players are unhappy about something, which is also a problem. You can be unhappy about something because you don't understand it. People were unhappy about foreigners throughout the history everywhere all the time until today because they don't understand and have predjudices.

How do you tell the diffrence? If an issue is NOT reasonable presented and discussed and it gets lots of upvotes it just indicates that players have prejudices and are looking for confirmation. They are unhappy about something they don't understand.

You see reasonable persons would never look at a thread that is basically argumentative garbage and upvote it because they have the same opinion.

Opinions are not important. It's important how you express them, so that others can consider them. Opinions need to be defended sometimes but you also can change your opinion, if you learn an important fact or an entirely different perspective.

This is how humans find solutions. This is how humans find out what is true and what is false.

So you see the problem right now is that there are no good discussions and as a result the boards kinda get reduced to a barometer of public opinion. The public opinion doesn't tell you what is true or false, it only tells you what mood the people are in. if it's just a barometer of public opinion why should they conent themselves with such a small sample size. Might as well use reddit then. It's just about quantity anyway and I think reddit has similar problems as the boards. Most trends that happen on reddit probably also happen here. I mean, why would they not? It's just a barometer of public opinion with diffrent sample size.

But Riot can't just act based on some votes, they have a real job and real responsibilities, they have facts and statistics that they know are true regardless of what the public opinion is. Riot is looking at this barometer of public opinion and is like:

Ok the players are unhappy with the current meta that's a risk we need to consider, because unhappy player = less money, but on the other hand we have our balance and we know that meta can shift on their own and we don't want to mess with balance too much because this could also make players unhappy further down the road which would also mean less money.

So they find a compromise that on one hand gets in the way of balance (the balance ACROSS metas to be more precise) but on the other hand is supposed to appease angry and impatient players for a while.

Welcome to patch 8.16 and many patches before that.

So this is how I see the boards and the role of the boards, it could be much more, but I think the moderation team is naive, they don't really realize the scope of the issues and how hard it would be to change it after the unreasonable movement of players got too much momentum.

Gameplay+ ? Isn't gonna change anything.

With the internet and information bubbles and echo chambers we are witnessing an anti-enlightment and it's not just a problem in games.

i cant move wtf8/22/2018, 11:39:25 AM1 votes

Reddit is just as much of a circlejerk as this place is. I think the new Gameplay+ board could make this place more relevant though if removing downvotes does indeed reduce the circlejerking.