Individual word censorship on the boards.

Jo0o·12/21/2018, 9:24:44 PM·13 votes·12,135 views

I humbly submit that "the r-word" being censored on the boards is a terrible idea. I'm not a fan of individuals who use it, and I'm not here to strut some poorly-conceived "muh free speech" argument. I disagree for one simple reason: Previously, any word changed to "%%%"s on the boards was easily identified as a zero-tolerance word in-game, but the "r-word" is treated as normal flame. This will cause confusion over on the PB boards. Please consider reverting this change.

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ModUlanopo12/22/2018, 2:09:16 AM10 votes

We had a fair bit of discussion about this before it was added to the censored word list and it's an interesting story - at least from my perspective - how we came to that decision.

A member of the team said, basically, "I think that word gets used too casually on the Boards. It's always an insult and I always feel bad when I see it, but we let it slide. I'd like to revisit it." The immediate response was the old standby argument of how it's synonymous with slowing, hindering or delaying. Resistant to fire was also mentioned. There was some back-and-forth about innocuous uses that occur organically on the Boards (hint: they're really rare).

That's when someone pointed out that the people arguing for keeping it had completely disregarded the "I always feel bad" part of the opening statement. That's when people had the light bulb moment of giving the consideration of peoples' feelings equal time. We talked about how there are plenty of easy replacements with much less pejorative context. We talked about how there are lots of words that people don't realize are offensive, mostly because they don't belong to the affected culture or they're just not popular any more. (If you want an example of this latter idea in action, watch people seeing Django Unchained for the first time. You might be surprised at their reaction to the racial slurs, but that's really just a measure of how much things can and do change.) People missed it, but a couple other slurs or insults were also added to the list. People just haven't noticed because they're no longer in common usage.

After a great deal of heated debate, we came to the consensus that it was okay to add that term to the filter and, if it ever became a problem, we would revisit it. I don't think that's likely, but I could be wrong.

As for masking the word making it more difficult to know what was said, I don't see that as a huge concern. I think people will get it most of the time from the context and there's a benefit to getting people in the habit of just using the synonyms.

disregardable12/21/2018, 9:31:28 PM7 votes

r-word is hate speech, it's ableism. I think it makes more sense to be censored than "count minus a letter".

like that's not even a bad word, wtf rito.

Krynnˉ12/21/2018, 9:39:20 PM7 votes

Tbh the word she even be banned as it comes for the latin word r-i-t-a-r-d meaning slow, which is very commonly used in music written as "rit". Censorship of this word is the equivalent of censoring 1945 because it was the year WW2 ended.

Vlada Cut12/21/2018, 10:37:00 PM7 votes

Can't even say word smartass aymore without snowflakes getting offended. :I At least I don't cry when someone tells me to end myself.

NipNapper12/22/2018, 2:01:21 AM5 votes

Hot take: we should make the r-word zero tolerance on both the boards AND in game. It’s been used as a slur against those with disabilities. It should be treated as such.

DrCyanide12/21/2018, 9:25:55 PM3 votes

I'll agree with this point, it's a lot easier to keep the zero tolerance phrases the same in both the Boards and in game. If the Boards has a stricter zero tolerance system than the game then there needs to be a way to see raw chat logs for Player Behavior to know what's actually Zero Tolerance.

saltran12/21/2018, 9:45:47 PM3 votes

What is the r word?

I'm missing something.

forist12/22/2018, 12:20:09 AM2 votes

Not like it matters what is censored and isn't tbh. There are many other substitutes for the word r_etarded. If your word choice gets censored just edit it and change it, it's not like you are getting punished for typing bad words on here.