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Unskilled players arguing against common knowledge makes gameplay discussion impossible

Yenn·7/2/2018, 10:24:40 PM·1 votes·1,675 views

The Gameplay forum is flooded with this. It's actually impossible to have discussion on gameplay, because the vast majority of posts are by Bronze players arguing against knowledge that is de-facto to more skilled players. I don't even bother responding, because it takes an absurd amount of time to prove to them that they're wrong (if it's even possible to do so, many things can't be mathematically proven), while often being completely unrelated to the discussion topic. At best, responding that they're wrong just further derails the topic.

As an example, one player is trying to argue that buying Stormrazor on Jhin is 'shooting yourself in the foot.' 80% of players above Platinum build Stormrazor on Jhin as their first item. 88% of players above Platinum include Stormrazor in their build. This does not include games that ended before they could complete Stormrazor.

It's widely known that Stormrazor is a great item for Jhin. This player posting a wall of text telling everyone that Stormrazor is bad goes against common knowledge and detracts from discussion. This happens constantly, on virtually every topic, and most threads are completely derailed by someone arguing against things that are widely accepted by higher rated players.

This situation really needs to be improved.

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ModThe Djinn7/2/2018, 10:58:14 PM5 votes

Being wrong, or having opinions that go against what others (of higher or lower MMR) think is not something we are going to take action against. If you don't want to engage with individuals you believe are incorrect, you do not have to. If you wish to try to educate them on why you have your opinions, you're welcome to do that as well.

I'm sorry if that's a little blunt, but the boards are not a place where we want to limit discussion only to those who have a certain level of game knowledge, and that means allowing people to have opinions that may be considered incorrect by some (or most) of the League community.

To quote the Summoner's Code:

##Leave No Newbie Behind! "Be an opener of doors for such as come after thee." -Ralph Waldo Emerson

We all started somewhere, and if we're going to do justice to the people who helped us move up the ladder, we have to start by paying homage to our roots. If you see a player having a bad game, or who clearly doesn't grasp the fundamentals of the genre, try offering some constructive advice. If you do so in a civil and friendly manner, it's likely that they will be receptive. Oftentimes they'll be downright grateful that somebody took the time to let them know how to improve instead of yelling at them.

Never get frustrated by an inexperienced player's performance. At some point, you were just as green as they were, even if it was the day that you downloaded the League of Legends client. Have a little patience, and try and help the player step up to a level where both of you can enjoy the game. At the same time, don't be discouraged if they aren't receptive. Some small percentage of players will get hung up on the notion that they don't need anybody's help, and, no matter how politely you try to lend a hand, they won't want to hear it. That's no reason to give up on the rest of them!

Buzzkillington07/3/2018, 12:15:24 AM2 votes

It's widely known that Stormrazor is a great item for Jhin. This player posting a wall of text telling everyone that Stormrazor is bad goes against common knowledge and detracts from discussion.

Stormrazor is a popular item but it's average at best. He has a crit penalty and stormrazor's crits reduce it further. Stormrazor also needs more items to get that crit damage up. By that time the game is already over. Ghostblade is a much better item to rush since all adc's lost base stats and everyone is playing squishy shit. I am a Jhin main, 1 million and 240k points