Player Behavior
Are the PB boards to be simply an echo chamber for people coming to complain about the rules? It is apparently removable to be blunt and explain to someone that they are the problem they complain about.
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It is fine to be blunt, but you should not be insulting in your bluntness.
You caused this.
Instead of doing what a normal person would do and trying to discuss a compromise, you tried to make everyone else do your way or the highway.
People like you who think they know everything and that their teammates must listen to them and think the same way... you’re right, those are the problem with the League community.
There's a lot wrong here, primarily the implication that the OP is "not a normal person" (when frustration is a human emotion, and a valid one even if we don't like how it sometimes manifests in game), and the phrase "people like you who think they know everything." Additionally, there was no actual evidence that the OP caused the situation -- the OP's statement implied that they were shoving a lane, not that they were harassing the Vayne for disliking that. The OP never even mentioned talking to the Vayne.
In short, it feels like you assumed malevolent action and then attacked the individual. You can be blunt and direct without being condescending or insulting.
To be honest I am quite surprised that you complain about your post being removed considering that a few of your comments still stand or parts of it are not removed by moderations where you showed an entitled attitude and/or "bluntness" - basically rudeness. You demand a lot for other people here on boards but then make a fuss when the moderation team decides to take actions against you?
How is it an echo chamber if threads like that get heavily down-voted most of the time?
Try to avoid talking about the person themselves and focus on what they did. Also avoid phrasing that could be taken the wrong way.
You caused this.
"Your actions caused this." The practical difference is basically nil, but now we're talking about what they did, not about the person per se.
Instead of doing what a normal person would do and trying to discuss a compromise, you tried to make everyone else do your way or the highway.
"Instead of doing something constructive and helpful and trying to discuss a compromise, you tried to unilaterally mandate your teammates' actions." The most direct antonym of "normal" is "abnormal," which isn't generally seen as a positive trait. Many other similar words don't have this problem, like ordinary/extraordinary, usual/unusual, common/uncommon, and so on. Strange but true. The phrase "your way or the highway" also has negative connotations, so describing the same effect with more neutral language helps you fly under the radar.
People like you who think they know everything and that their teammates must listen to them and think the same way... you’re right, those are the problem with the League community.
"Disagreement on strategy and refusal to compromise are indeed significant issues in the League community." We're staying far, far away from "people like you," especially when it's followed later in the sentence by "the problem with the League community." I realize my suggested sentence here sounds like vapid corporate nonsense, but it conveys the intended message without being rude.
When creating my pre-written answers to common PB questions ("T1 was unbanned," "permas are theft," "I didn't start it," etc.), I found that it's much easier to be polite and neutral when you're not actually talking to a particular person. I wrote those answers purely in response to ideas. That way, instead of seeing "all I did was call my teammates %%%%%%% and %% %% %%%%% and i h8 u all" and having a dialog with that person about how that's an awful thing to say, I was simply expounding on where LoL's rules come from. Additionally, having pre-written responses allows for a lot more editing time, where I can tweak and revise and soften where needed. Basically, when you respond to someone, don't respond to them. Use their post as a sort of essay prompt, and write your post as if you're talking to an arbitrary reader.
Are the PB boards to be simply an echo chamber for people coming to complain about the rules?
The PB board is more of a revolving door. Thread starters are far more likely to be someone who has not been there before and are about a recent event that occurred to them. Many of these people vanish once the discussion has reached the end one way or another.
Do some stick around to continue and make their arguments and give their opinions? Sure. Me and you both fall into that category. But for the most part the subsection discussions are about new individuals and their interaction with the punishment system.
That's the same thing I just got onto Hotaru about too.
"Being brutally honest isnt the same as attacking someone" he says...except either still breaks the boards rule of "Dont be a jerk", especially when you refuse to let it go. And I swear, I come back from a 4 month hiatus from these boards, and the first thing I see is the usual PB specialist getting all elitist on some guy for no reason whatsoever. (speaking not of you this time, considering that we've had our bouts before, I should be clear)
I called him on it, and that's literally what he said. I used his exact format of flaming the guy, and he SOMEHOW thinks that his is fine, and mine is not. That's all I need to even say. Don't let that blue border get to your heads. You were recognized as good people...stop proving them wrong.
I'm out.