Since it's so easy to be a moderator

ModUlanopo·3/3/2020, 1:55:39 AM·1 votes·7,625 views
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This was a training tool I developed a while back. I added scores for answers, but we would have gone over the responses with a new mod.

Keep in mind that this is less than an hour's work for most experienced mods, given that you don't have to scrub the thread or analyze the context.

Good luck!

EDIT: current high is 20. Average is 14.09. Mean is 16.

81 Comments

KFCeytron3/3/2020, 4:10:31 AM17 votes

Does that form have any questions about how long people should be expected to wait for a mod in Discord? Or about how classy it is to make a farewell post that just places all the blame on the users? Or about how many troll posts a troll should have to make before it's considered trolling? Or about how much this very thread looks like one of those mind-shatteringly stupid "if you think it's so easy, let's trade places" sitcom plots? Like, have some grace, wow.

Ayzev3/3/2020, 8:29:56 AM7 votes

I honestly do not know how the Riot Games HQ hasn't been shot up yet. Correct answer: There is another action you should take

I feel kinda left hanging without knowing what that other action is

If I get insulted with "Hah, fuckin straight people"... Correct answer: delete/-with warning

Fucking what? There was a legitimate point being made here

Did you not learn from your Zoe mistake? Correct answer: delete with warning (without warning not correct)

Did you just forget to count a simple delete as correct or am I missing something?

Cries of a bronze player who... Correct answer: delete

then ruin the competitive scene because you balanced the game around a bunch of r%%%%%s Correct answer: dismiss/repsond

How is the former worse than the latter?

People nowadays get too offended over dumb shit lol, theres only 2 genders stop being stupid and grow up Correct answer: delete with warning

Acknowledging biological facts is hate speech, innit

That anti-semitic one

Why was the delete with warning option missing here, if deleting with and deleting without a suspension are both correct answers?

ModJikker3/3/2020, 4:45:08 AM6 votes

Dang I remember taking this. What's ironic is that there are several on there that would be "would analyze posting history then decide". There's even more than these basic "multiple choice" when it comes to making decisions.

KFCeytron3/3/2020, 2:41:43 PM6 votes

One more thing: not every reported thread is a difficult case. Some are so easy, a caveman could figure out what to do. For example, a thread in Gameplay - which is supposed to be about the actual game - titled "Fix your client" and the entire thread body is "Please?". A reasonable person would see that that's low-effort shitposting that doesn't belong in Gameplay, and would immediately remove the thread. The mod team, however, would be like "eh, seems fine" and leave it up there. That's not a hypothetical, by the way - such a thread exists, I've reported it multiple times, and it's been up for a month, so it has diplomatic immunity. I would have gone into the Discord to try to prod some of you into action on this and dozens of other problematic threads (I've been saving links, and yes, there are dozens, no exaggeration), but not only you CBA to do it in the first place, you CBA to have at least one person moderating threads or checking the Discord for days at a time.

"We'Re VoLuNtEeRs" was used far too often as an excuse for good old-fashioned not doing something well - or at all, sometimes. And then you have the nerve to post the most debatable corner cases as a "training tool"? How about training mods to care? "BUT WE DID CARE, FK YOU" well you certainly didn't show it a lot of the time. If I was a mod, I probably could've closed/deleted dozens of threads and posts of open-and-shut cases every day just by looking over recent posts and asking myself if they were obviously in violation of the rules. For all the time you spent deliberating over what the rules were, you often neglected to actually put your findings into practice.

Note how I didn't post this in response to the other mods, who decided to go the classy route. I posted it in response to you, who made a "screw you guys" farewell post and then gave us this absolute farce of a defense.

Ozzie Storm3/3/2020, 2:30:15 AM5 votes

That velkoz meme omg, never forget xD

ModThe Djinn3/3/2020, 2:16:53 AM5 votes

(Probably a good bit less than an hour, honestly. It's worth noting that anyone trying this should be trying to apply the board rules, almost all of which are from Riot at the end of the day. Saying "just let everything go" doesn't cut it.)

Pika Fox3/5/2020, 7:40:20 PM3 votes

Imagine blaming the mods for not having the tools to do their job and the boards community being a dumpster fire of "windwall op" and "fuck riot" threads.

Fact of the matter is... You cant really blame the mods for this. Especially given if they were to do their job with the limited tools they did actually have as far as we know youd all be comparing them to stalin and hitler.

Especially ruj. You have literally zero rights to talk or try to start shit. If they did the job you want them to do, you wouldnt even be here to voice your concerns.

Zero Skill Tank3/3/2020, 5:15:22 PM3 votes

Yeah...

UBR clearly say that typically a progression of punishment should be applied. I didn't bother to read all of the question but it seems that none have any context on the poster.

Since, as you wrote, you gave it to people "cold" and rules don't mention it, the person getting tested has also no way of knowing, except for their "gut feeling" what is the policy between edit, delete and warning.

This test is worthless, so basically, all those years you were modding people at random.

And then you dare to play the victim when blamed for your failures [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Karfuss3/3/2020, 3:06:19 PM2 votes

Got 22, roughly around that, very similar answers.

Most of the ones I answered differently were either me being too harsh (as in the case of the Jewish caricature in that context) or being too lenient (delete with warning on first offence the binary one as opposed to 7-day or permanent suspension, given that not everyone reads or will go out of their way to translate binary, though if they had said it directly I 100% agree). Also the 'shooting up' one if I could go back I would've changed it, should've been raised further beyond a permanent ban I think.

Most of the time agreed that some action should've been taken when action WAS taken, to what extent varied but that's fine. Few that I disagreed on (such as the smack talking that isn't TOO vulgar, probably just worth a stickied comment and maybe a thread lock if it escalates), also fine.

Though I have moderated before in other forums. Thankless job. If you're not getting moaned at FOR moderating, you're getting moaned at by other mods for not doing exactly what they would've. Rather work in HR and at least paid to do it.

Colonel J3/3/2020, 3:54:01 AM2 votes

I got 21 wrong, but I was too nice with leaving things unmoderated. Here is my sheet.

https://imgur.com/a/h1svyR1

Eedat3/3/2020, 5:03:46 AM2 votes

Ayyy there were only two three that I was off by more than 1 punishment tier

Du Ma Mi3/3/2020, 6:26:24 AM2 votes

I've always considered stuff like "u ape" more or less banter than actual toxicity. What are your thoughts @Mods?

Also, how do you guys feel about somewhat excessive swearing in posts when they're directed at the game (from quiz: "What the fuck Riot? Did you not learn from your Zoe mistake?Do NOT bring this shit live. I rather wait for another champ that doesn't have trickery like this shit.A champion that can take the form of ANOTHER champion.....NO.FUCK NO.Whoever created this champion, needs to be let go. Now.")? I assume this post was in RANT, and not in gameplay, as the question more pertained to the rant section anyways.

Also, I noted the jab at getting a Riot employee fired, which is definitely not okay, but other than that part, I'm curious.

PS. Thanks for all the hard work, mods. I know ya'll got the crappy end of the stick a lot of the time, but I can tell your jobs weren't easy, and I do appreciate the time that went into moderating such a cesspool creatively diverse forum.

14daysuspensionk3/3/2020, 8:13:55 AM2 votes

And why are Discord mods hired, usually being allowed to be toxic to others in servers?

OtterlyLost3/3/2020, 5:17:39 PM2 votes

Some of these questions are extremely subjective. Like I would have personally deleted the suggestive pictures of the two characters not related to League unless they were used in a context(such as fill ins for people's potential self created champions where their suggestiveness would make sense within the scope of the champ). There often wasn't enough context provided and some of the things that would have received warnings felt like incredibly strong reactions in a bubble.

Honestly, this isn't a great test. I got 17 "correct."

Aymin3/3/2020, 8:31:35 PM2 votes

Wow these are some pretty dysfunctional standards; some of the things that are DELETE AND WARN are actually completely fine. Calling someone an ape for getting hit by skillshots, or expressing a firmly held controversial opinion in a nonviolent way is fine. Elo shaming, unproductivity, and trolling are way more problematic. Lots of these things are killed by simply deleting and ignoring them, and mods can remind people not to elo-shame people without removing the ability to point out that there is a meaningful difference between diamond and iron, and the players that comprise them.

Not very surprising these boards have a stagnant community if this is an accurate reflection of the mindset of the moderators.

People love boards. Reddit is one of the biggest sites online. This place was mismanaged, make no mistake.

Project Xayah3/7/2020, 2:02:25 AM1 votes

I feel like I should be concerned that I got 11...

Maybe some of it is due to cultural differences between regions, but still, that's pretty low...

kda akali3/4/2020, 11:37:36 PM1 votes

I feel like the sexism, ableism, homophobia, xenophobia, and racism should constitute a higher ban lol. It's only one up compared to just spamming nonsense.

If saying an opinion about why you're mad at a champ in the game in a bad manner constitutes a delete, I think saying the f word and posting anti semitic stuff should get someone permanently suspended.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/btRQ9vEEKZr5vvWZ-3lPRZDjSpCyrhMGflqdV4abMJ62UUikFMgSEYMKNN16YX3rNk5pNm4gkuOzWMi9g2dSBxBiHNgD3ybTF8zYx22np70eIwoXP32sM6kBCOJn=w415

also her whole coochie print is showing????

BrokenRayquaza3/3/2020, 5:49:34 PM1 votes

Sad thing is this stuff you see on the quiz is common in boards

Destello Azul3/5/2020, 11:48:35 PM1 votes

Damm I closed the window before seeing the score. [zombie-brand-facepalm]

T î m e3/3/2020, 6:12:04 PM1 votes

Idk if youre r%%%%%ed but mean and average is the same fucking thing