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The Gameplay forum seems a little negative

Aymin·2/14/2020, 2:49:48 PM·5 votes·3,379 views

I say that as someone who is primarily a Reddit user.

I've heard constant comments from people with a Riot tag in front of their names making jokes that clearly Reddit is considered a hellhole of toxicity and filth, but I have to say, the Summoner School subreddit has way more constructive conversation and threads than the Gameplay board here does. There are a LOT of people using that forum to just whine and complain and argue.

If I were working at Riot, there's far less chance I could find something of value in there than on Reddit, yet somehow Reddit is a byword for useless flame?? The Gameplay Forum here has a wealth of arguing and people smack talking Riot for making a game they play and enjoy enough to be on a Forum for.

I'll try to keep posting more here and provide more positive/constructive inputs, it's a little out of my way and I often forget to check it. I hope to find a place where Riot can hear good ideas and thoughtful, caring discussion about the game instead of "Rito delet Aphelios plz BORKEN". I love to design games and I play a lot of league, and consume a ton of league content. I would like to find a way to contribute my perspective and unique ideas.

Perhaps undirected negativity could be more vigorously redirected to the RANT board? Perhaps there could be a board specifically for Balance, Environment, and Champion Design discussion(quantitative and qualitative balance discussion, not just "X is unbalanced, revert it" or "when is riot going to do something about Y").

Just a suggestion. Seems like a lot of uninformed negativity and venting on the "Gameplay" board.

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King Lego2/14/2020, 3:22:43 PM5 votes

I honestly cannot blame people for being negative let alone toxic in either the forum or even in game.

Riot's design method is questionable and if you ask me, it's affecting game health in a negative way and when riot keeps on ignoring the complaint be it constructive or not, the people will get mad and turn to being negative and resort to "fire the designer", "this champ is trash! nerf!", and "revert this and that!".

I've seen people with constructive posts before and those who are mature enough to speak their mind at a pro manner and I've seen those who would ignore everything whether constructive or not and in many shapes or form.

To my opinion, it's riot's fault for keeping on ignoring the playerbase, let alone why even bothered creating boards or even change it to begin with. If they change the game to their own accord or as the popular saying goes: "the chinese market", they are eventually going to sink. Question is how severe and when.

Pika3102/14/2020, 3:34:15 PM5 votes

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I say that as someone who is primarily a Reddit user.

The reasons Reddit isn't littered with angry customer complaints, hate threads & toxicity is multifold:

  • The LoL Reddit moderators actively shadow ban users who don't kiss Rito's asses.
  • The majority of constructive threads get drowned out by the plethora of pro-play threads.
  • Reddit is a nexus of forums, for every topic you can think of. The presence of casuals is much much more pronounced.

That's the main points that come to mind off-hand, but I'm certain there are additional reasons.

AIQ2/14/2020, 3:38:31 PM4 votes

I've been hopping between both, I can tell you that both suck.

Generally in Reddit the primary post is "better" or "more constructive" because if it's not a mod will remove it without question.

The rules are a bit more lax on the boards and the Mods are not nearly as active meaning sometimes things can sneak by or stay on a bit longer than they should.

The boards generally "speak their mind" more than Reddit, which will come off as toxic (because it is). However, once you get into Reddits comment section, the mods at the boards do a better job monitoring it than Reddit. Reddits comments are just as if not more toxic than the boards (that tasted funny to say).

Both sometimes have something extremely useful things to say, but 90% of the time those diamonds are lost to the piles on piles of dirt on both forums.

Ultimately both are the same toxic players and neither is "better" than the other, they are just moderated differently. Riot employees though can feel "safer" know that Reddit will likely remove a comment that stings even if it does not violate a rule and the boards wont.

Riot can also go a bit more incognito in Reddit while the boards essentially announce that Riots doing something and will get hit with a flurry of both useful and negative comments.

Ultimately, I'd say for Riot the boards are better designed, and have better ways of expression and getting noticed or direct feedback (they could tighten up on some post though). However Reddits density is really what makes it shine and access to specific things like you mains page just helps a ton if they are looking for something specific.

So in conclusion, they are both toxic, but both are useful in their own way.

I just want to add that Riot also does not attempt to interact with those that do have very constructive post, which is extremely discouraging when you spend 3 hours+ on a post and Riot is too busy telling a rager some sly remark or that they have 200+ years of experience (not the same platform I know). Riot can easily choose good things to comment on, there have been fantastic game changing post on this board that completely die because Riot doesn't even acknowledge them, so why would they stay?

Jaspers2/14/2020, 3:42:18 PM2 votes

The boards have good discussion and threads of note and worth will be upvoted by many people. Rage or negative posts generally don't gain steam or are downvoted. The difference is, the negative threads exist and generally many here care more about he games state than if Faker pulled off another Penta kill that week as they want the game to thrive. I'd say Reddit has a lot more meme content and eSports stuff.

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There are a LOT of people using that forum to just whine and complain and argue.

If you want to complain about something you go to the source of your complaint, it just happens that any user of League can just log in and comment/complain here and do to air their grievances, with no real restriction unless it's pure flame or hatred where it's removed.

The Iceborn2/14/2020, 10:30:39 PM2 votes

Overall we, the volunteer team, have tried our best to up the quality of the boards and that sub- board in particular but Riot decided that that was not a good idea.