So I'm 14 day ban and I think something went wrong

Lone1yW0LF·Jan 15, 2020·2 votes·3,495 views

Title says it all, I didn't even know you could get banned from playing and it happened... Also my first boards post, I checked the rules and I don't think there is one against language unless I just missed it so there will be a couple grown up words in this post.

January 14, 2020 I got hit with a 14 day ban, also my account will apparently have restrictions after the ban but I don't quite understand them or know what they are. I have never been banned and was very confused nor was I ever chat banned. The last honor level I remember immediately clicking out of was honor level three so I was at least that. I know now from looking online that it's possible to get the 14 day ban straight up but I think something went wrong here. The typical ban progression according to internet goes like this: 10 game chat restriction, 25 game chat restriction, 14 day play restriction + other stuff I don't get, then perma ban.

I'm gonna be honest, I wasn't the nicest guy in the third and last game I played the afternoon of July 14th. I was mean to my jungler. I used to almost exclusively spam kindred jung so I know how to path and peek lanes and decide when to roam, I know what a jungler should at least attempt to do even if I'm not the best at it. Our jungler was not the best at it. I'm not gonna say that he was terrible or why he single handedly threw, cause that's just mean and won't solve anything. But I will say this, I have never trolled a game that hard, I have never held my teammates captive just to be a jerk, and I have never just ignored all my lanes and their pings.

I said %%%%%% twice that game, and I said r%%%%% once. Our top called me a %%%%%% so fair, our jung called me somethin after I asked for a gank so whatever. Doesn't make what I did right and I'm not trying to appeal what happened, but then someone I play with fairly regularly noticed something odd so that's what this post is.

Should I have been hit with a 14 day ban no warning?

My short answer is no. That same game I had a friendly chat interaction with the enemy jung who sat in my lane for half the game. I get camped, all the time. When I top lane vs a duo que I get camped. Don't tilt me at all. I just hope our jung will spam gank bot or something but I don't think I'm that terribly toxic of a person for advising my jung nicely to get bot a lead and spam gank for them. Normally I get a Great Shotcalling when I try to be nice and help guide my jung to other lanes. I looked online to figure out why a free game that someone could just make an alt account would start players with a 14 day ban and I think I agree with the reasoning.

A toxic person can just make an alt and be toxic, so the 14 day ban is a huge inconvenience for a person who just grinded bot games to get an account to a high enough level just to flame teammates. Makes sense. I am not that person though. I was honor level 3+ (no clue what that means) I get key fragments all the time when I log in for recent honors, and I have played a loooooot of games on this account vs players. It's not like I just made it and insta flamed.

Is the system automated?

That's what this comes down to. It has to be, it's so fast and with so many reports it has to be. If it's not then rip me, I guess riot has it out for me lol.

I saw someone post their chat logs from their 14 day ban, and there were three of them. Only them talking just like what the game shoved in my nose like a bad dog. The ones I saw posted had a thing that showed what was all chat but I suppose the person could've added that because mine doesn't show me that. Here's the thing, I only have one log. One log. One game. That's it.

I know all the reports people hit you with are supposed to add up, but I only have the log from one game. One game, a 14 day ban and now the threat of perma over my head. One game, all that time wasted. League is a big part of my and my girlfriends life right now and this ban hits her too. The stuff she got me for our 6 month anniversary was almost all league, and I got her the dead Teemo figure and the Tibbers plush as well as league gift card as part of her present. This ban hit me hard. I was mean in chat, but a ban? I never troll or int or throw. Even if I got permanently chat banned I could at least play, but no.

My friends theory:

He told me that league just switched over to the global username thing when I told him about my ban, he asked me if I changed mine yet. I said I wasn't told to so mine must be a unique name. Then it hit him. That was why. The game just updated. I had just ranted about why I understood hitting a new account with a 14 day ban but I thought it was unjust in this case. He just said "What if it is a new account to the game? I mean it just updated all the accounts to be globally unique..."

I think this was it. My third game, a brand new account to the system, I got reported and some robot script saw that I said %%%%%% twice and r%%%%% once. Ban. It makes sense doesn't it? If that were that accounts third game then that's fair right? I think it would be. The thing is that wasn't my third game on that account, it was one bad out of a hundred great ones, and it wasn't even really bad. I've had people say much, much worse and I didn't get the "action was taken" message. I know its only for the last people that reported it but one game is all it took for me, why not them? I'm not just here to whine and say its unfair, I don't actually care if they get a short comms ban where they can't bm. But 14 days? One chat log, one game. Completely ignoring my honor level (seriously what is that). It's crazy to me.


So why am I makin this? I'm done ranting and I know nothing will get done, I can't appeal a ban, I can't save my account or the money or time I spent on it. I'm posting this cause I have a question, am I that toxic? And can I save my account and the many amazing, happy, and sometimes slightly frustrating moments when I point blank miss everything and somehow give away the worlds most free first blood. I just wanna know if my account is dead. My profile now shows no honor, not just a drop in a tier and I don't wanna get perma banned. I'm only level like 40 tho and I haven't got into ranked. If it's not against the TOS I'm gonna make an alt to play with my gf on, even if I have to grind bot games and blind pick. 

Also if this is an intentional thing the ban system does where it just randomly looks at reports and banns one in a dozen then I will most definitely never spend money or buy my gf a card to get skins again. I know she'd be crushed if an adc flamed her for missing a bind and she calls him out just to get banned. (also didn't get to play Sett, feelzbadman)

17 Comments

GreenKnightJan 15, 20203 votes

Wrong board.

And saying shit you said generally results in a higher punishment, at least that's what i noticed from similar situations that were posted on boards, and your honor level has no impact on the report system.

But, you weren't banned permanently. When your current suspension ends, you still have a chance of redeeming your account standing, as long as you don't exhibit toxic behaviour.

And yes, you are free to make an alternative account, as long as you don't share it.

Lone1yW0LFJan 15, 20201 votes

Ah alright thx mate, and wow I've seen (and reported) people for waaaaay worse with no immediate action. Another guy had something like this happen too tho so I think I wasn't too far off. Btw what board does this go in if not general?

GreenKnightJan 15, 20202 votes

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Ah alright thx mate, and wow I've seen (and reported) people for waaaaay worse with no immediate action. Another guy had something like this happen too tho so I think I wasn't too far off.

Well, using words like the one you said is highly frowned upon. And you could've been at least passive aggressive in your other matches, resulting in the system responding so harshly, after being reported numerous times in various games.

Btw what board does this go in if not general?

Player behaviour. But you posted it in Discuss the boards, not GD.

Lone1yW0LFJan 15, 20201 votes

But why not a chat ban tho, I was under the impression (after my own experiences and what I've been told) that having chat on is bad news if you get tilted easily. Like a chat ban would've still been lame cause then I couldn't ask the other mid laner to dance with me but at least I would've known to not respond so harshly to my teammates in the future without having the treat of a permaban over my head.

GreenKnightJan 15, 20202 votes

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But why not a chat ban tho, I was under the impression (after my own experiences and what I've been told) that having chat on is bad news if you get tilted easily. Like a chat ban would've still been lame cause then I couldn't ask the other mid laner to dance with me but at least I would've known to not respond so harshly to my teammates in the future without having the treat of a permaban over my head.

If i'm not mistaken, you used a zero-tolerance word. Writing those words in chat escalates the punishment instantly.

Don't be toxic, and you won't be permanently banned. The threat is always there, for everyone.

Lone1yW0LFJan 15, 20201 votes

But if the other guy said the exact same word and it's all automated then why didn't I get the immediate action message? Sorry to keep harpin on this but I really am at a loss here considering just how many times I've seen these so called "zero tolerance" words"

GreenKnightJan 15, 20202 votes

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But if the other guy said the exact same word and it's all automated then why didn't I get the immediate action message? Sorry to keep harpin on this but I really am at a loss here considering just how many times I've seen these so called "zero tolerance" words"

You don't always get noticed that your feedback resulted in a punishment. And if they were reported, then you can bet that they would be punished too.

GatekeeperTDSJan 15, 20203 votes

Because racist or homophobic slurs are considered hate speech, which has no place in a video game or anywhere else, and you know it. Adjust your usage of that kind of language before you accidentally use it in person and earn yourself a free jaw adjustment.

JuleviJan 15, 20202 votes

{quoted} I said %%%%%% twice that game, and I said r%%%%% once.

I guess the first censored word is either a homophobic slur (starting with f) or the n-word with -er ending. These things count as "hate-speech" and lead to an escalated punishment-tier as the first offence.

Is the system automated?

That's what this comes down to. It has to be, it's so fast and with so many reports it has to be. I

Yeah, you are right. After a game your (in this case) chatlog will be reviewed in under 15 minutes.

I saw someone post their chat logs from their 14 day ban, and there were three of them.

That's normal. The regular punishment path, as you already mentioned, is a 10 game CR, 25 game CR and a 14-day-ban. Normally not a single game (excluding inting/trolling/griefing/hate-speech) leads to the first ban. Not every chatlog which contains punishable stuff will lead to a punishment- it depends on how toxic you were and the time-intervall where it happened.

Besides that: please don't let friend of yours fabricate theories why the ban happened - check out yourself. You can always ask the board for help, as there are a lot of players with enough knowledge to point out the most important stuff or request that a Riot employee takes a look at it (submit a ticket).

I can't save my account or the money or time I spent on it.

You can - pull yourself together and show constant positive behaviour over a few months - your punishment level can drop.

Lone1yW0LFJan 15, 20201 votes

What do you mean can drop, sorry I'm now to all this. Does that mean the crafting thing will be available again or that if I get reported after like a year in a half of no reports I won't get permabanned. Also at least one other dude had this happen and appealed it plus my past reports didn't get insta results so I hate to say I think the guy might've been right.

Edit: Oh, and I meant three chatlogs. That's what struck me as odd cause for me I was literally one single bad game and not one other chatlog was shown.

JuleviJan 15, 20202 votes

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What do you mean can drop, sorry I'm now to all this.

Hey, don't worry - feel free to ask everything! We as a community should help each other out.

These are the punishment tiers & your position on it now.

10 games CR

25 games CR
14 day ban - here you are
permanent ban

When you show positive behaviour you can drop down a tier - meaning that you are on the level as if your last punishment would have been only a 25 game CR. Therefore it's possible that you receive bans or chatrestrictions several times without a permanent ban. Or even that your account gets completely clean!

that if I get reported after like a year in a half of no reports I won't get permabanned

As long as they are false reports you don't have to fear anything. You can even request at the support how often you got reported and they will present you some data - how often in each category.

plus my past reports didn't get insta results so I hate to say I think the guy might've been right.

Did you use a homophobic or racist slur? If the answer is: yes then the ban is justified as I already mentioned above. Nothing related to the changing of your name in this case.

Lone1yW0LFJan 15, 20201 votes

Alrighty thank you for your help man, I really appreciate it. I don't think I used a homophobic slur but if there's like a list of things I can't say I'd like to check it. Now that I know people can get waaay more than a chat restriction I think I'm gonna quit reporting people for the little tilt talk. Also how do I request that, if i am a huge problem I'd at least like to know?

Malix FarwinJan 15, 20202 votes

Ill be honest with you, the sheer amount of people not trying, learning champs in ranked games, and troll picking has been so high that i am relying HEAVILY on the turn ally chat off feature from not getting banned myself. When i type something and that message says "you need to turn on ally chat" i get a sigh of relief.

ModUlanopoJan 15, 20202 votes

This thread has been locked at the request of the OP.

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FURRY V2Jan 15, 20201 votes

Holy cow. Just copy-paste the log you get when you try to log in instead of writing a bible about your life.

People on the forums already know that every banned person is innocent. We just here to read how unjustified it was to give a ban for asking others to end themselves or making a compliment about their skin color.

Lone1yW0LFJan 15, 20201 votes

Oof, not lookin to argue or spread toxicity and I even said I wasn't lookin to appeal. I definitely didn't go that far either. I didn't know I could copy the logs. Is there any way to close this to new responses now that I got my answer?

FURRY V2Jan 15, 20201 votes

You can ask a moderator in PM to do it for you.