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Anyone else here been unfairly banned?

JoelMord··1 votes·4,771 views

So I recently just had my second account perma banned and made me think, who else was banned unfairly here? Both of my accounts were banned due to other people reporting me for seemingly no reason. Whether it be just a bad game and they think I am inting or due to something else. I understand the idea behind banning people for typing toxic things, but has some of these people never been on the internet?

If you can't handle being called something from someone in a video game, you should stay off the internet. The internet is always going to have toxic people and people are always going to tell each other to go KTS, its just how it is. Instead of taking everything anyone says to you to heart, people need to learn to just ignore it. Banning people for things such as "inting" based on what other people have said about you or being banned due to someone didn't like what you said to them is just absurd.

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Lauchmelder9 votes

{quoted} If you can't handle being called something from someone in a video game, you should stay off the internet.

This "argument" works both ways. If you can't stop being a dick you should stay off the internet.

JoelMord1 votes

In what way does saying the truth make someone a dick, more importantly, no, it doesn't work both ways in terms of how you are saying it does.

The Gray Wind4 votes

Yes, because you should totally make someone who feels stupid for a mistake feel worse and risk your game quality, great idea. Sike. Just because you say it's true doesn't make it so, this is very much a "there is no other point of view but mine" argument. You have no form authority or high ground to tell people that can't hang out with others or play games online just because they can't/shouldn't have to put up with your incivility.

Lapis8 votes

You say you're unfairly banned and then go and list the reasons Riot was justified in banning you. Well done?

JoelMord2 votes

Cursing in chat is justified in what way? Because precious snowflakes in the world can't handle being complimented 24/7 and expecting awards for just existing? That is unfairly being banned, because you don't get things in life by having it just handed to you, so their idea of doing that is wrong. I wouldn't even be that upset at this had I not been banned after 5 1/2 years of playing with more than $1k put into my main account.

Lapis5 votes

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JoelMord1 votes

All you did was just prove my point right there, so thanks for that.

Jhins Girlfriend5 votes

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Cursing in chat is justified in what way? Because precious snowflakes in the world can't handle being complimented 24/7 and expecting awards for just existing? That is unfairly being banned, because you don't get things in life by having it just handed to you, so their idea of doing that is wrong. I wouldn't even be that upset at this had I not been banned after 5 1/2 years of playing with more than $1k put into my main account.

There are things you can do that aren't complimenting that also aren't against the rules. You can say nothing, or you can give helpful feedback. Saying "you suck, uninstall" or "ugh WHY DID YOU GO IN" aren't constructive and it's just going to tilt them more.

JoelMord1 votes

If you play league, you have a standard set for people. You don't play league at Platinum or Diamond level play and expect it to be okay that someone is playing like they are Iron. Yeah sure, people do dumb shit all the time as well, but it doesn't make it okay and you shouldn't be allowed to call someone out on it.

The Gray Wind2 votes

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Cursing in chat is justified in what way? Because precious snowflakes in the world can't handle being complimented 24/7 and expecting awards for just existing? That is unfairly being banned, because you don't get things in life by having it just handed to you, so their idea of doing that is wrong. I wouldn't even be that upset at this had I not been banned after 5 1/2 years of playing with more than $1k put into my main account.

Maybe not, but punishing people and making it harder to earn in a game... my dude, that's not your place, Riot made that very clear by their rules.

Arcade Lulu5 votes

If you don't want to get "unfairly" banned, don't break the rules I bet all of your bans have been justified, but you just can't see/understand it

If you don't want to respect other players and respect the rules you agreed to, maybe you should get off the internet and league

JoelMord1 votes

If someone doesn't show they deserve respect, why should someone show them it then? If they are acting like dickheads, why should I show them compassion and understanding. Flawed logic.

Arcade Lulu6 votes

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If someone doesn't show they deserve respect, why should someone show them it then? If they are acting like dickheads, why should I show them compassion and understanding. Flawed logic.

I mean, i'm not forcing you to respect anyone Do whatever you want But your actions have consequences And if you break the rules, you'll be punished

GatekeeperTDS3 votes

why should I show them compassion and understanding

This isn't an A or B situation. You have 3 (I'm simplifying here) reactions to someone being a jerk.

1.) "Be nice to them! Everyone deserves respect." This is not realistic, you don't have to do this.

2.) "Flame them back! The fuckers deserve it!" This results in derailing the game even further for innocent bystanders who just want to play the game. You will be punished for doing this.

3.) DO NOTHING.

Why does everyone who comes here bitching about their unfair punishment forget about #3? You can maintain your dignity and piss off the jerks by ignoring them. And here's the best part - you won't get punished!

ModPrandine1 votes

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This isn't an A or B situation. You have 3 (I'm simplifying here) reactions to someone being a jerk.

1.) "Be nice to them! Everyone deserves respect." This is not realistic, you don't have to do this.

2.) "Flame them back! The fuckers deserve it!" This results in derailing the game even further for innocent bystanders who just want to play the game. You will be punished for doing this.

3.) DO NOTHING.

Why does everyone who comes here bitching about their unfair punishment forget about #3? You can maintain your dignity and piss off the jerks by ignoring them. And here's the best part - you won't get punished!

I think it's simply because it's a pride thing. When someone attacks them or someone/something they care about they feel the need to defend themselves by lashing out. While there are some merits to defending what you believe in, most people just end to take it too far and wind up in worse situations than they were before. Well there's that, and I think it's also because at times it's hard to simply just ignore the hecklers and move on, and eventually they just get fed up enough where they retaliate when they normally wouldn't.

That's just how I see it anyways, though I do have to admit that I'm sure we're all guilty of having done one or more of the things I highlighted here at some point or another (I know I am).

The Gray Wind2 votes

You are the person you are talking about in your OP dude, you can't handle having people say things so you freak out. If you can't handle people being jerks, don't be a hypocrite. This is top level projection right there, the teammate started it, they hurt your pride, so you went after them it sounds like.

Imperial Pandaa5 votes

To be honest the whole argument of "It's the internet" is a shit argument to try to excuse being an asshole. The main difference between the internet and real life is the extra anonymity that the internet can offer. The internet is what we decide to make it; and I think people have decided they want more guidelines/social norms in place.

Internet is composed or various businesses and users; and each one has authority over the domain they control. If I host a server on a game, I am absolutely allowed to control what is allowed on that server. If I decide that flipping a coin with it landing on its side means you have to leave, then I can make you leave. If I decide that I don't want people joking about rape and somebody jokes about it, I can make them leave.

"It is the Internet" is becoming less of a valid argument to be an ass. More and more places seem to be taking the route of "if you wouldn't do/say it to a stranger in front of a crowd; don't do it". The argument of "but this is a (competitive) game" is also not the greatest argument. It is one, but you can consider that there is always an official/ref to review the post game. Excessive unsportmanlike conduct will be penalized.

KFCeytron4 votes

From Riot's support knowledgebase:

It only takes one report for our systems to review a game.

Your opinion of the rules is of zero relevance. When a cop stops you for going 40 in a 25 zone, you can claim "I think the limit should be 45 here" all you want. You're still getting a ticket. If a librarian asks you to keep your voice down while you use the facilities, shouting that libraries should be loud will simply get you escorted out. If you go to a friend's house who insists that you remove your shoes while you're in their home, "that's a stupid rule and I do what I want" will lose you a friend. If you are using someone else's services, facilities, equipment, etc., you abide by their rules or you deal with the consequences. If you think the rules should change, that is a completely different conversation (and I wouldn't give a plugged nickel for your chances at convincing Riot to change their rules to allow behavior like yours).

From Riot's support knowledgebase:

We work with the overall community and within our own company guidelines to identify what disruptive behavior is and what the consequences for those behaviors should be. We understand that it can be difficult to know where the line is, which is why we provide chat logs and we have a few tiers in the ban process in order to allow for you to learn and grow.

You keep being punished because you keep breaking the rules without understanding this concept.

JoelMord1 votes

All it does is show that riot doesn't actually care about their player base. Guess i'll go somewhere to a company that actually cares for their players then.

KFCeytron3 votes

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All it does is show that riot doesn't actually care about their player base. Guess i'll go somewhere to a company that actually cares for their players then.

https://i.imgur.com/2S3bpvU.gifv

JoelMord1 votes

Then again I could just make another account, no harm in that now is there.

GatekeeperTDS3 votes

Are you going to quit, or are you looking for people to talk you into not quitting?

ModPrandine3 votes

To quote Chermorg:

It being the internet doesn’t change the fact this is a game people play to enjoy, not to be flamed for every little tiny mistake.

Times are changing, and anonymity is becoming less and less of an excuse/shield for players to behave like jerks without fear of accountability. If they can't behave in a mature manner in an online video game then they're in for a rude awakening if they act like that offline. From Riot Tantram:

People might be used to feeling powerful behind a computer monitor where people don't know who they are, but that's not how we look at things.

if you were playing a game of basketball, and told someone to go kill themselves because you were frustrated about losing, you'd be penalized. Would you be punched in the face for telling someone at the bar to go kill themselves? Probably.

It's not 'PC'. It doesn't take 'testicles' to hide behind a monitor and tell someone to kill themselves or call them a racial slur. In fact, I'd say it's quite the opposite.

There's also the issue of time. People play games to have fun and most people don't enjoy it when there's a person who's more interested in ruining the experience of everyone else involved simply because they're mad or whatever. Too many bad experiences can drive customers and players away, so it's actually in Riots best interest to remove those who are more interested in harassing others and being unsportsmanlike than they are in actually playing the game itself and being sportsmanlike.

Simply put if you feel Riot doesn't care simply because they won't let you verbally abuse and harass others and get away with it then you need a reality check as more and more game companies and communities are following Riot's example.

The Gray Wind1 votes

Truth. Thank you. Edit: I would also like to add this: If you insult someone and rag on them or start highlighting a mistake; no one likes being ragged on and abused for it. Pretty sure OP is the same way.

ModPrandine1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Gray Wind,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=XrAdrMEr,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-08-22T16:02:47.729+0000)

Truth. Thank you. Edit: I would also like to add this: If you insult someone and rag on them or start highlighting a mistake; no one likes being ragged on and abused for it. Pretty sure OP is the same way.

Not trying to point fingers or anything but many people think it's only fine when they do it but not fine when someone else does it.

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