Rank shaming?

Ph03n1xb1rd·12/5/2018, 5:15:00 PM·3 votes·3,053 views

Hi,

so i just would like to ask what is considered rank shaming, and why is this even a thing?

To shame somebody with something, that something has to be embarrassing/bad or whatever. Do you all consider bronze players inferior? Is being bronze embarrassing or bad? Are you ashamed of being a silver player? (If you are one.)

Why can't you use other players' ranks in a discussion. What is totally normal for a bronze player, can be considered trolling in gold. A good call in gold, sometimes can be a total suicide in master. Why is it not allowed to use it in a discussion, when bronze and challenger players are essentially playing a different game?

Ranks are a public information what everyone can access easily. Is it so bad that in a discussion, you save 2 clicks and write the rank of another player? If this is soo bad, why does Rito share this information with everybody? If this is not bad, why is it punished on Boards?

From what level is it considered rank "shaming"? If you call somebody a bronze, that's shaming? If you call it gold, is that shaming? If you call him challenger, that's acceptable? From what point do moderators think that a player is "good", so it's allowed to state his rank? Or will they delete my post if i call somebody a challenger?

This whole thing is very undefined, and biased. Basically moderators do whatever they want in a case like this with no rules or guidances?

Thanks for the clarification in advance!

23 Comments

DrCyanide12/5/2018, 5:37:12 PM5 votes

Why can't you use other players' ranks in a discussion.

You can, you just have to use it in a discussion rather than as a way of shutting down a discussion. "That may work for you in Bronze/Silver/Gold, but when you hit Diamond your opponents know how to counter it with X" will never get you in trouble.

ModJikker12/5/2018, 7:38:24 PM5 votes

Knowing that this is in regards to your edit, the reason your comment was edited for Rank Shaming was because you said something along the lines of "P.S. You're Silver 4, disregarding you". In other words, you were saying that you no longer would consider their arguments valid because of their Rank. This also happened on a Player Behavior thread where rank really shouldn't matter very much if at all when discussing punishments. I did leave up the portion where you mentioned play in bronze/silver/gold versus diamond because that is more factual and okay as you are not discriminating or devaluing a person's opinion based on their rank.

To better clarify what is generally acceptable, here are some examples:

Acceptable

  • "You're Silver 5 so that's why you won't get a Victorious Skin"
  • "Zed may be strong in Silver, but at higher levels of play such as Diamond, he becomes much easier to counter"
  • "People in Bronze don't ward as much so you may not realize how much this vision change has impacted play"

Unacceptable/Rank Shaming

  • "Just saw you're bronze so I'm not gonna bother even trying to talk with you anymore"
  • "Lol you just mad cause you're a silver baddie"
  • "Look at all these Silvers trying to comment on this like they know how to play the game"
  • "I'm Plat, stfu you're a Gold V scrub"

Does that make sense?

sneakydoug12/5/2018, 5:19:07 PM3 votes

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Dr Dog12/5/2018, 5:23:29 PM3 votes

i wouldnt consider it shaming if its actually constructive to what the argument is about and not used to mock them as opposed to "your bronze lmao"

Better Jungler12/5/2018, 5:57:17 PM2 votes

Yeah.. I've had posts removed for just mentioning someones rank when talking about balance.

something along the lines of. "In your elo (bronze 3) alot of things are broken that aren't broken in higher elos, so they cant really balance around you guys."

It wasn't an insult.. it was just a point of conversation lol, I op.gg'd his account when he said Yi was broken or something. can't remember now. its been a while.

Overall just best to leave rank out of it unfortunately.

Just the Lip12/5/2018, 5:30:34 PM1 votes

Ive already tried to debate what constitutes "rank shaming"

And it did not go anywhere, literally just dont mention someones rank unless they are diamond+ or they might remove your post due to "rank shaming"

Noor Sakata12/5/2018, 5:44:04 PM1 votes

While I really hate rank shaming and the idea of it It feels bad when you are Platinum and a Bronze 2 player replies something to criticize me and I get down voted to hell while he gets upvoted even though I'm right and he's wrong