Known bug with certain spells being cast immediately after another ability

RiotRiot Superfoxman·10/15/2014, 2:19:58 AM·25 votes·17,229 views

Hey all,

We're currently aware of a bug where cone targeted abilities (e.g.: Annie's Incinerate, Nidalee's Swipe, Kassadin's Force Pulse, etc) are reversing their direction when cast immediately after using another ability (e.g.: the Flash Summoner Spell, Nidalee's Pounce, Kassadin's Rift Walk).

Champions who rely on cone targeted spells to finish their combos are most impacted by this, like: Nidalee, Kassadin, Pantheon, Annie (Flash + W), Darius (Flash + E), Singed (Flash + E), Riven (2nd cast of R), among others.

We're currently tracking this to find a proper fix (due to the nature of the bug we can't make any promises on a timeline) but, in the meantime, the best workaround is to slightly delay your cast combinations to accommodate.

Sorry for the inconvenience!

54 Comments

Eskimofo10/15/2014, 2:24:41 AM22 votes

VOID FART IS BACK LOL!

Masalar10/15/2014, 3:18:19 AM12 votes

Vindication! This happened to me on Kass in an aram. I said it was a bug but nooooooooo, they all said it was just me being bad. Well, take THIS you doubters!

ncES0J17Hb10/15/2014, 2:37:13 AM8 votes

Just wanted to make sure you know about Chogath 's silence too, it was happening to me yesterday and I was confused, glad to know you have identified the bug

Kari Arisu10/15/2014, 3:09:25 AM4 votes

Just FYI, for Nidalee at least it's not from combining skills. She shoots her E backwards anytime you are traveling. If you stand still it works fine, and if you pounce and don't issue movement commands it works fine.

Steelclaw10/15/2014, 3:14:49 AM4 votes

It seems like something fundamental may have broken in the last patch in regards to targeting. Is this also related to the new linear skillshot bug where you have to move into range before casting? (Anivia's Q)

CollectiveFury10/15/2014, 7:37:05 PM3 votes

"We've temporarily disabled Nidalee due to an in-game bug, and are working on fixing the problem."

Don't fix the problem. Just leave her disabled.

Twitch Chat10/15/2014, 8:17:12 AM2 votes

how the fuck does a bug like this come back after being fixed

Flying Buntcake10/15/2014, 2:51:42 AM2 votes

My Syndra insta stun is so lame now

Vokra10/15/2014, 3:57:53 PM2 votes

Please can the bug with her E not damaging champions please get looked at as well, I feel as if this one is going to be swept under the rug because not many people know about it. It also may have something to do with this cone bug. Maybe the reason why her E isn't damaging champions is because it's actually firing backwards.

Xytrin10/15/2014, 3:43:25 AM2 votes

i experienced this bug a few days ago with Cass. It was during an aram game where i flashed to ult but the ult went backwards. At the time i thought it was due to Morgana's Q. She was facing roughly the max distance of her Q, she casted her Q, I tried to flash over it but happen to flash right on top of it, I got snared and I casted my ult immediately after i flashed. From what i can see Cass never actually turned around but her ult went behind her.

Is the center of the cone targeting the position you were when you used flash/rift walk/pounce?

Myoga10/15/2014, 7:35:51 PM2 votes

What about this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxA5i4ZswDY

So annoying when this happens on Caitlyn

Deep Terror Nami10/15/2014, 3:02:13 AM2 votes

Pretty sure my Nami Tidal Wave went in the opposite direction once. I have over 100 games on her now and only happened once though so it could've been just user error. Ones like Nidalee on the other hand, do it frequently.

Ao Okami10/15/2014, 6:51:55 AM2 votes

Are the servers down? for some reason I am not able to log into leagues. I have already tried to repair the client 3 times and still the same. Help pls

Omni10/15/2014, 9:22:48 PM2 votes

This Bug is also happening with Darius Darius E. Incredibly frustrating flashing in to pull someone and it casts backwards from where you intended to pull.

Doofenstein10/15/2014, 6:19:45 PM1 votes

I can confirm that this seems to happen on Nidalee's Swipe after any movement command. Even simply clicking to move will cause her to swipe either behind her or at a 90 degree angle in relation to her facing if you press E within maybe half a second of issuing a movement command.

Hope that helps.

darkdill10/15/2014, 7:19:33 PM1 votes

I know this is off-topic, but shouldn't you also put up a topic saying "We know about the 'Attempting to Reconnect' bug!"?

Danetta10/15/2014, 7:32:59 PM1 votes

Please, fix Zed' W-Q too.

pro4never10/15/2014, 8:03:20 PM1 votes

Just to confirm - Are you fixing ALL instances of flash causing skillshots to go backwards? Cause this has been a long time complaint I've had with Karma. I was under the impression that it was 'working as intended' and related to flash allowing you to cancel out frames of certain animations (some of which have since been changed, others left as is)

To reproduce the bug you flash immediately after launching Q. There's actually a ridiculously long lockout time before flashing wont make you whiff the skillshot.

EG:

Karma --[Q Direction]-->>Target

If you flash within the next few ms (guessing around 300 ms, fairly long) after casting Q, then the direction of Q is reversed even though you're flashing away from where Q was aimed and the vector between her end location and the location Q was cast towards are nearly identical.

lmpact10/15/2014, 8:31:36 PM1 votes

I'm not sure if you guys are aware of this but this bug also occurs with Lee Sin Q occasionally, as well as using some spells directly after a teleport.

MrBuffington10/16/2014, 4:45:39 PM1 votes

Just wanted to add that this happens to Corki E as well; not as big a deal since it just goes where you're facing, but it does happen. Thanks

XShadowAlkX10/16/2014, 7:19:18 PM1 votes

Oh thanks, I looked like a fool when I was miss fortune, I tried to be pro so I flashed in and ulted and I shot behind me instead of where the enemy team was... everyone was like wtf noob

Talon e w too Nobody has noticed talon since he's nerfed but I still have hope.

Hup23410/21/2014, 5:46:57 AM1 votes

So... are we ever going to be able to use Nid and Kass again? Update please!

Teslyn11/11/2014, 4:25:31 AM1 votes

zyra is acting funny too.. can you look into her E .. i have seen it go some odd directions lately. kinda annoying trying to activate the plants and the snare shoots off .

Sorayiel10/15/2014, 10:06:25 AM1 votes

And here's me thinking I got to dumb to cast swipe correctly everytime I went in for a trade.

Zombiepaste10/15/2014, 10:57:10 AM1 votes

I'm sorry but the random direction thing isn't a "after flash" thing for singed... it was happening literally every time I flung someone. They'd go sideways and I'd be unhappy.

MrFrosty QC10/15/2014, 1:19:25 PM1 votes

Happens way too often with Pantheon...

pierreluc1410/15/2014, 1:20:58 PM1 votes

Pantheon bug combo flash + Heartseeker Strike

video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMB-zgNYg8I&feature=youtu.be

NinjaGinge2310/15/2014, 3:03:23 PM1 votes

If you include teleport in the mix, this bug has existed for years on caitlyn. If you try to Q the moment after you teleport to a tower, it will fire towards your past location.

Big Nasty Mèat10/15/2014, 3:08:01 PM1 votes

This problem exists for Olaf too. If you try to throw a max range ax immediately after flashing it will only travel the minimum distance most of the time. If you try to throw an ax immediately after teleporting it will go behind you.

Mayumé10/15/2014, 3:55:26 PM1 votes

I had the same bug with olaf Q just after TP

wfDAnOKHgl10/15/2014, 4:13:51 PM1 votes

What about the Warwick ult/Q bug? You ult and immediately after you cant Q for 10+seconds

FunBug10/15/2014, 4:28:38 PM1 votes

Similarly to this should be chained abilities like Caitlyns E-Q. The Q has a random timing before casting and sometimes doesnt cast at all. Half the time you get the "extra" range that is intended from the E-Q combo and other times you dont.

ezuF10/15/2014, 4:42:37 PM1 votes

Lux still has a bug when teleporting and casting R right after you teleport, it usually goes in the direction behind Lux instead of where you're aiming. This problem has been in the game for a while.

GregreTricky10/15/2014, 4:53:37 PM1 votes

I don't know if its really a bug, but I experienced a similar thing with the Flash/Feral Scream combo with Cho'Gath.

YourDrunkGranny10/15/2014, 5:33:24 PM1 votes

Riot, there is a Riven E bug where if you press E from the corners of your screen, (I'm not exactly sure how it happens) you will go the exact opposite direction. You can check out how it happens here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6B71hNiVV8

I'd highly appreciate it if it was fixed ASAP.

Thanks

Prawnstarbob10/15/2014, 6:15:55 PM1 votes

East Coasters read this as "the best workaround is to ~~slightly~~ significantly delay your cast combinations to accommodate."